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 Post subject: Help me pick my first split.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:44 pm 
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Hello,

I'm trying to pick out my first splitboard. The mags at TGR send me here for you help. I have limited experience with splitboards in general but have used a demo on 2 occasions and found it much easier then snowshoes. My weight is between 180 and 200lbs. Price doesn't really matter to much to me since this will probably be a graduation present for me. Ive so far what Ive gathered is that Prior, NS, Voile, and Burton got the goods.

I have been riding a Burton T6 164 and using snowshoes.

I am interested in the idea of a rocker/reverse camber and/or reverse sidecut but have no idea how these would play out in a touring situation.

For your help you receive....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:08 am 
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If you want a rocker board, Neversummer is going to have at least a couple of models next year. I demo'd one of them this past weekend at Steamboat. I believe it was based off the Heritage core. It had true rocker. Starting from center. Very spinny, a little bit soft for my taste, but absolutely floated great in pow. I think the rocker would be a bit much for skinning up anything steep and icy, since it starts from center. No flat spots. There is supposed to be a Summit board with a rocker nose they are experimenting with. Hopefully I'll get to take out the demo board in a couple of weeks. I'll post up what I think of it. The Summit is definitely a sweet sweet ride in pow, so I am intrigued by this development.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:31 am 
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I started splitting this year. I split my own burton johan then bought an older burton custom and new voile mojo. I have limited tiem on each board, but so far I have really liked both. I have always ridden burton solid boads and like them a lot, and my first experience with a voile is very good too. I have no idea about the reverse camber or rockered boards. I also have no experience with the priors or never summers, but both companies have a strong following of riders who say tremendously positive things about their boards too. I'm a bit heavier than you and both the voile and custom support me and flex well. The voile mojo is slightly softer than the burton, but both handle quite well. Good luck.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:58 am 
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Killclimbz wrote:
If you want a rocker board, Neversummer is going to have at least a couple of models next year. I demo'd one of them this past weekend at Steamboat. I believe it was based off the Heritage core. It had true rocker. Starting from center. Very spinny, a little bit soft for my taste, but absolutely floated great in pow. I think the rocker would be a bit much for skinning up anything steep and icy, since it starts from center. No flat spots. There is supposed to be a Summit board with a rocker nose they are experimenting with. Hopefully I'll get to take out the demo board in a couple of weeks. I'll post up what I think of it. The Summit is definitely a sweet sweet ride in pow, so I am intrigued by this development.


The Summit was specificly one of the NS boards I was looking at, so that is good news. Do you know if the rockered nose is due out next year? Yeah I read in the rocker thread that it could make skinning up a bit more difficult so I will probable stay away from a totally rockered board but more likely go for something with a flat spot underfoot.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:12 am 
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Need more info

What are your typical conditions you ride in?

Do you plan to do overnighters?

Do you ride trees and if so where/ (tree spacing)

Whats more important to you powder floating ability or ability to hold an edge in steep Icy sconditions ?

Whats your riding background? Pipe an Parks or big mountain?


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I don't know what the plan is with the Rockered nose Summit as of yet. I think feedback is going to make them decide if it goes to production for next year. I will say that the Summit already kills it, so if the rocker nose works it could be even better.

The general word of mouth that I have been getting is NS will probably have a rocker board at the beginning of the season then expect a late season release of the other rocker models after they have had a chance to work out the kinks in those boards.


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IF you live in PA and ride in the northeast you do not want a rockered pow board......

But NS is a great choice.

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First off I'm a high school student (junior) looking to make a move west. So bear with me if my answers are not really specific. I also gave myself a year or so to look for a deal since I don't have much use of a split till I'm outta PA.

TEX wrote:
Need more info

What are your typical conditions you ride in?
I imagine using this for powder.

TEX wrote:
Do you plan to do overnighters?
yes

TEX wrote:
Do you ride trees and if so where/ (tree spacing)
I found 4 Pines and Crags at Jackson to be ideal trees for me

TEX wrote:
Whats more important to you powder floating ability or ability to hold an edge in steep Icy sconditions ?

Powder floating ability. For steeper icy conditions I think I will stick w/ the T6/snowshoe combo until I can afford another board
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Whats your riding background? Pipe an Parks or big mountain?
My background is in the park... but that being said I just ride park because is more fun then groomers. Big mountain is where I find the most fun in snowboarding.

It is also important that the board be able to hold up on cliffs up to 35-40 ft. (not sure if this info is pertinent)


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Some people say add a few extra centimeters to the length of your current board..but for me I ride pretty much what I would ride inbounds. The most important factor for me is board flex and length. I like a more flexible board in the trees and in the powder. If I am doing a big open bowl and I can carve GS turns thnen I would go for a Mountain Gun. However I dont find myself in these types of situations much so I went with a Burton 168 S. I was riding a Burton 165 S .
I think the Mojo and the Burton will ride similar and I can best describe mine as a ride exactly like a Burton Custom.

I would shy away from going too long. It just doesnt seem to do trees too good if your board is too big. Also you may find yourself in some tight couloirs when an extra 5 centimeters can make it too slow to jump turn.

Also keep in mind that a split will be a few POUNDS heavier than your resort board resulting in slower response all around.


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It is also important that the board be able to hold up on cliffs up to 35-40 ft. (not sure if this info is pertinent)


Aaron, please remeber to crawl before you walk, followed by running somewhere after that maybe consider hucking that big, just remember the mountains out west are bigger than they are in PA. Also being on split means there is not any ski patrol around, so you are on your own. This may mean slogging four miles with your buddy with a sprianed ankle.

Just stay with in your limits in the backcountry, on that note. If you looking for the all around split, the burton s series is sweet, so is the new mojo. I have heard great things about the venture divide but never ridden one. Get a split and take your time progressing through the stages, and have fun.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:25 pm 
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It is also important that the board be able to hold up on cliffs up to 35-40 ft. (not sure if this info is pertinent)


Aaron, please remeber to crawl before you walk, followed by running somewhere after that maybe consider hucking that big, just remember the mountains out west are bigger than they are in PA. Also being on split means there is not any ski patrol around, so you are on your own. This may mean slogging four miles with your buddy with a sprianed ankle.

Just stay with in your limits in the backcountry, on that note. If you looking for the all around split, the burton s series is sweet, so is the new mojo. I have heard great things about the venture divide but never ridden one. Get a split and take your time progressing through the stages, and have fun.


Thanks for the advice. I have been west and realize the size of things outside of PA. I have found my comfort level on a regular board to be about a 35-40ft max and have set that out as a "goal" for splitboarding. I plan to start small and work up to that size once I become as comfortable on a split as my regular resort board.


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If you are dropping 35-40 foot hucks as a matter of course, you'll need a couple of boards, so I wouldn't worry about it. 8)

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Shep wrote:
If you are dropping 35-40 foot hucks as a matter of course, you'll need a couple of boards, so I wouldn't worry about it. 8)

Shep


I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it's my age, but 10 years and hundreds of days boarding have helped me conclude:

Mandatory airs into a bitching line and baby jibs are the only ones I'm interested in.

If the mandatory air is 30-45' I might pause for reflection.

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