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 Post subject: Re: Large radius(sidecut) boards
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:42 pm 
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JimmyC wrote:
The availability of the Dum Dum is great news. Will you be updating your web page with the specs, description, photos of the Dum Dum in the near future?


Ahh, I'm embarrassed to say I probably won't get to the website any time soon (though we are slowly updating it with photos etc). We trickle these special edition shapes in small numbers so they're usually sold before we build them. Anyone who is interested should definitely get in touch with me, and I will definitely try to keep the forum updated with this kind of thing.

Jim, I know you're down with Chimera! I'll drop you a line and tell you everything I can think of.

Sorry to derail the conversation.


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 Post subject: Re: Large radius(sidecut) boards
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:38 pm 
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Awesome----thanks!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Large radius(sidecut) boards
PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:51 am 
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Exactly, the new 14/15 Venture Odin has been resdesigned so now the radius is around 12m
I have already the 165/26 for next season, can't wait to try it out!

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 Post subject: Re: Large radius(sidecut) boards
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:03 pm 
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On a related note: there doesn't seem to be any large radius board with magnetraction.

I like magne / vario on deeper sidecut boards, but haven't been able to ride my Furberg yet to compare grip on hard snow for myself.

Do people feel that the large radius makes magnetraction unnecessary and it will be too much to have both?

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 Post subject: Re: Large radius(sidecut) boards
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:16 pm 
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lernr wrote:
On a related note: there doesn't seem to be any large radius board with magnetraction.

I like magne / vario on deeper sidecut boards, but haven't been able to ride my Furberg yet to compare grip on hard snow for myself.

Do people feel that the large radius makes magnetraction unnecessary and it will be too much to have both?

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Ivo


"Magnetraction" is mostly nonsense, consider, who needs edge grip the most? Alpine snowboard racers; ever seen a race board with "Magnetraction"? OK, so why do we have "Magnetraction" at all, well, the answer is provided by the fact that most boards have way too deep a sidecut, where the edge of the board between the feet (where the rider actually has the most control over the edge pressure) is very hard to even engage with the snow: the "Magnetraction" points actually simulate a less deep sidecut, providing some edge purchase between the feet. My opinion is that "Magnetraction" is a crutch, which partially "solves" the problem caused by sidecuts which are too deep in the first place. Never Summer's "Vario" solves this problem in a similar fashion, by making the sidecut between the feet an almost straight edge, making it easier to engage.
Boards with really long radius sidecuts do not need these crutch type fixes, by their nature, long radius sidecuts distribute more edge pressure between the feet, improving edge grip, and the the rider's control over edge grip. Most who have ridden furberg boards remark about how good the edge hold is, and David Capozzi is doing a bunch of quite extreme descents in the Alps of icy, super steep lines on a furberg.

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 Post subject: Re: Large radius(sidecut) boards
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:30 pm 
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Hey Barrows -

yep, I suspected so, that's why I asked...

You should be out riding, man! My wife and younger kid are at the resort today having a blast, I have to sit here on the internez lol

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 Post subject: Re: Large radius(sidecut) boards
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:50 pm 
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Actually, there is too much new snow here, and too much wind to ride today, I basically cancelled after dealing with near zero visibility, hammering wind, and setting off multiple 18" to 30" thick soft slabs yesterday. Looks like this storm is finally going to end tomorrow afternoon, then maybe it will be a little safer by Wednesday.iy

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