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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:21 pm 
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How about getting rid of a dozen unused inserts if you want to lose some weight.

do any board companies offer the option of not putting a pound steel in their board except for where you want it?

I only need 8, not 26. what's the weight on 18 t-nut inserts? anyone know?



I've been pushing for ICS for years to do just that! But nobody listens to me..... :cry: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:26 am 
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ICS has it's problems unfortunately. I would guess that by the nature of how the design would have to be done, it might actually work better for a snowboard. Of course Burton ain't going to let that tech go to other guys for cheap...


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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:34 am 
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ale_capone wrote:
How about getting rid of a dozen unused inserts if you want to lose some weight.

do any board companies offer the option of not putting a pound steel in their board except for where you want it?

I only need 8, not 26. what's the weight on 18 t-nut inserts? anyone know?


Igneous :)


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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:07 pm 
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Guys
Just wait something is in the pipeline, for DIY only at this stage.
The ICS will be call the FLST (FirstLight Slider Track)
When FirstLight starts production Splits this year, there will be both insert and FLST available.
I am doing Summer testing and all looks good.
The only thing is that there will be no weight saving only the advantage of infinite puck adjustability. Should please some!
Although it is not my concept, not sure why it hasn’t been done yet.
Photos will be leaked soon.
All I can say is that the Production boards will have the FLST made out of different material that that used on the DIY boards.

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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:15 am 
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Regardless of weight savings, I went and ordered materials to make full Carbon pucks for myself. I have a new ride with Afterburners, and the only thing still flexing and moving are now the pucks themselfs. So I'm thinking a full carbon puck might be better afterall.
The materials were only as expensive as a new set of pucks anyway, figured I might give it a try.

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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:28 am 
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Check out Prowder.com they have a new stainless steel puck and interface system.


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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:54 pm 
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Fortunately there is now a solution to this problem. Just come to beautiful Lake Tahoe! Yes, in what is now becoming an annual occurrence, you can access the backcountry during the mid-winter months wearing nothing more than lightweight hiking shoes. No heavy boards with hardware and pucks,no time- and energy-consuming transitions, no snow accumulating on your topsheets and slowing you down!

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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
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That sounds similar to the activities they pursue in the north-eastern Alps this season. I hear they even stopped wearing Goretex over there. But unfortunately I'll be heading for another part of Europe with lots of snow, where every metre uphill is still a struggle.

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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
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Killclimbz wrote:
ICS has it's problems unfortunately. I would guess that by the nature of how the design would have to be done, it might actually work better for a snowboard. Of course Burton ain't going to let that tech go to other guys for cheap...


I mean, K2 has a channel setup on the Ultra Split this year, and it looks identical to the ICS right down to the shape of the channel at the end you drop the nut in to. Seems like it must have been licensed, although I certainly don't know anything about it. But yeah, the stance set up is absurdly easy.

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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
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fustercluck wrote:
Fortunately there is now a solution to this problem. Just come to beautiful Lake Tahoe! Yes, in what is now becoming an annual occurrence, you can access the backcountry during the mid-winter months wearing nothing more than lightweight hiking shoes. No heavy boards with hardware and pucks,no time- and energy-consuming transitions, no snow accumulating on your topsheets and slowing you down!



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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:27 pm 
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Killclimbz wrote:
ICS has it's problems unfortunately.

What problems?


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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:41 am 
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Well, I've almost finished a first version. The bottom part is 4.2mm plain weave carbon, and the top is 7mm UD Carbon. THe UD carbon isn't ideal for this aplication, but it was the only type I could get in the right thickness. I can already tell you that it is much better than the plastic pucks for sure. I will be riding it this weekend.
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 Post subject: Re: Question regarding pucks nonevolution
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Ieism: I'd be little worried about hitting obstacles with those overlapping pieces of pucks made of carbon. Could destroy them quite quickly.

I like the idea of ICS and newly designed Voile-Burton coop pucks on Landlord. Hard to say if they got any stiffer, since there's no review of them out there yet.

Prowder idea looks really promising. I like the fact that all interface lock also in open position and to not stick out of the board halves. Anyone has idea on the weight of there?

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