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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:35 pm 
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Does anyone have any more info/opinions or better yet experience with the Abacus?


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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:07 am 
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I have 6 days on the Abacus 156 that I am reviewing for checkyourpins.com. My normal board is a Freebird 158. I don't know the tech specs off hand, but the Abacus feels much lighter than the Freebird (and I thought the Freebird was light...). The 156 feels short for me, even though my solid is 156 (Burton Custom, best board ever) and my split is 158. It floats pretty well for the size though. It is also significantly stiffer than my Freebird, and a little too stiff for my liking. The Freebird is a little too soft for my liking. One thing that has stuck out to me is the apparent lack of durability. At this point, most of it is cosmetics, but the Abacus looks way more beat up after 6 days than my Freebird does after about 50 days. I don't think this bodes well for longevity.

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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:46 pm 
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rightsider wrote:
I have 6 days on the Abacus 156 that I am reviewing for checkyourpins.com. My normal board is a Freebird 158. I don't know the tech specs off hand, but the Abacus feels much lighter than the Freebird (and I thought the Freebird was light...). The 156 feels short for me, even though my solid is 156 (Burton Custom, best board ever) and my split is 158. It floats pretty well for the size though. It is also significantly stiffer than my Freebird, and a little too stiff for my liking. The Freebird is a little too soft for my liking. One thing that has stuck out to me is the apparent lack of durability. At this point, most of it is cosmetics, but the Abacus looks way more beat up after 6 days than my Freebird does after about 50 days. I don't think this bodes well for longevity.

I have been putting some days on mine (164) with both sparks and karakorams. I agree with the durability comment. The topsheet has tended to get little snags and burs easier than my other boards (purely cosmetic). I have also noticed that the base seems a little thin and soft. No real damage, but little slices happen easier than on my GNU boards.

The board is super fun, really poppy, very light. I definately dig it, just doesnt seem like a tank.


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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:46 pm 
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rightsider wrote:
I have 6 days on the Abacus 156 that I am reviewing for checkyourpins.com. My normal board is a Freebird 158. I don't know the tech specs off hand, but the Abacus feels much lighter than the Freebird (and I thought the Freebird was light...). The 156 feels short for me, even though my solid is 156 (Burton Custom, best board ever) and my split is 158. It floats pretty well for the size though. It is also significantly stiffer than my Freebird, and a little too stiff for my liking. The Freebird is a little too soft for my liking. One thing that has stuck out to me is the apparent lack of durability. At this point, most of it is cosmetics, but the Abacus looks way more beat up after 6 days than my Freebird does after about 50 days. I don't think this bodes well for longevity.


I'm looking to get my first split and I'm between an abacus and a freebird. I was wondering what you'd recommend.


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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:29 am 
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You really can't go wrong with either. The durability issues with the Arbor have been addressed and they changed the sidewall material. Another benefit of the Arbor is that it comes with k-clips instead of the voile clips.

If you want something a little stiffer, the Arbor is great. If you want a softer board, the Freebird is great.

Another thing to consider is warranty. I'm not positive, but I think Burton has a 1-year and Arbor has a 2-year.

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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:32 am 
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rightsider wrote:
Another benefit of the Arbor is that it comes with k-clips instead of the voile clips.


I don't think that all folks share that opinion. Depending on the construction quality I would perfer chinese hooks. YMMV

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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:11 pm 
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Another negative of the k-clips is that they have moving parts. If a part moves it has a better chance of breaking or icing up. That said, I'm a big fan of the k-clips. I like the torsional rigidity they add.

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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:17 pm 
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^^^ agreed.

active vs passive :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:48 pm 
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rightsider wrote:
I like the torsional rigidity they add.


There is some disagreement about this as well. Who knew hooks could be so controversial?


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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:57 pm 
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Another satisfied customer of the Abacus here. I always loved my Abacus (2008? 9?) solid, and was stoked when I found out they were making a rockered split version.

This is my midwinter/softboot board for powder and variable snow. Super fun, poppy easy to ride board. I think it would be a great choice for beginning splitters, but for sure it holds its own on big lines. Haven’t had it in icy conditions yet, but I’m sure it’ll do fine with the magnetraction edges.

For late spring/summer riding, I still prefer my hardboots and Venture for the PNW volcanos. But for a ‘do it all’ board for your average splitter the Abacus is pretty much perfect. I have about 15 days on mine now, and yeah the topsheet is getting pretty beat up. But not any worse than my Voile from a few years back… fwiw.

Highly highly recommended for anyone looking for a very fun, light split.


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 Post subject: Re: Arbor Abacus
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:58 pm 
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love my Abacus!! got the 164 and rides like a dream. I have the Bent Metal x Karakaroms on it and it ride sweet! perfect balance between the float and butteryness of rocker with the pop and edge hold you expect from camber. I was expecting it to be hard to control on east coast ice, but it held like glue, the floated between turns. Truely impressed with the "system" with the secondary contact points. Buy one, you wont be disappointed. :twocents:

praying for deep snow :bow:

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