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 Post subject: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:50 am 
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Does anyone make a soft boot with walk mode?

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:38 pm 
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no, must have hardboot to walk

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:47 pm 
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It might help to phrase that as "Which softboot is the most comfortable to walk down hill in and will still drive a hard heelside turn without folding up the heel counter?"

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The TLT5 seems pretty soft to me! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
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Alright, clever answers to a too-efficiently worded question. Fair enough.

But... Are any of the companies purporting to make soft boots for splitboarding actually producing a boot that, like Spark and Lightrail highbacks, has a mechanism built into the upper that allows for increased rearward mobility and longer touring strides?

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:17 pm 
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I think the answer is no, never seen this.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:20 pm 
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Yes, they're called laces. Or dual-zone-python-snake-cable-ratchets. Or ultra-speed-soap-on-a-rope-hangmans-noose-lasso's. My Malamutes had those or whatever, but I swapped them out for regular work boot laces as I preferred the walk mode laces provided.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:15 pm 
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Perhaps the only soft boot that had a walk-mode was the K2 Ace (Clicker):

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It might help to phrase that as "Which softboot is the most comfortable to walk down hill in and will still drive a hard heelside turn without folding up the heel counter?"

My best answer...
The TLT5 seems pretty soft to me


Hard Boot!!! :thumpsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
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Powder_Rider wrote:
Perhaps the only soft boot that had a walk-mode was the K2 Ace (Clicker):

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It might help to phrase that as "Which softboot is the most comfortable to walk down hill in and will still drive a hard heelside turn without folding up the heel counter?"

My best answer...
The TLT5 seems pretty soft to me


Hard Boot!!! :thumpsup:


I am not begging a hard versus soft boot debate here. I fully appreciate that people ride high function plastic boots split boarding. That's rad; I know they have walk mode, I k ow they work great and I'm all about you shredding it that way.

But my question is specifically about soft boots, and whether or not the industry has offered something as simple as a walk mode feature in soft boots yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
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Zude wrote:
I think the answer is no, never seen this.


Thanks Zude. That's my working hypothesis too. Pretty pathetic if true. Eager to be proven wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
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Even in Malamutes and Drivers, I haven't ever really felt that I needed a walk mode. I do use the walk mode on my bindings and that seems to work fine enough for me. I think that unless the walk mode was perfect, it would be more of a nuisance than anything. Just look how long it took them to get it right on ski boots and those still break all the time.

I'd rather have reliability than another bell and whistle that's just gonna break.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
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I've been riding stiff boots for a long time now: Burton Rulers the first year they came out, Sims Revolvers, Ions, Driver Xs, SL9s, Koflach SuperPipes, BD Primes, etc. I've also ridden in some very soft boots like my first pair of sorels, then sorels with ski boot liners, my second pair of sorels, Burton Freestyles, and a pair of Santa Cruz boots back when it was cool to go linerless. I've also dabbled with Clickers/Kwickers a couple of times but that was mostly experimental during my college years. I never felt like I needed a walk mode in any of those boots when I was just booting around in the snow in the boot pack or on snow shoes. I also used to carry my snow boots on any dry trail approaches or just skip those trips all together so walk mode wasn't really a big deal. Now that I'm more interested in stuff that might involve a mile or two of walking down hill on a dry trail or skinning across substantial amounts of flat terrain walk mode is very appreciated. If there was a soft boot that had a real walk mode I'd be tempted to switch back.

I'm in the camp of not being tolerant of a soft boot with a broken heel spine, I can't stand it, never could. As soon as my boots kinked and folded I'd tossed 'em. Not everyone feels that was and some people tolerate it in order to get a more natural stride. I won't. I'd rather ride soft plastic boots that walk well than soft boots that are broken.

I've heard rumors of various companies trying to achieve the holy grail of a soft boot with a walk mode and closest I know of is someone cutting a 2 liter soda jug up so that they could break down their boot and reinforce it with the jug for riding or remove the plastic for walking.

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 Post subject: Re: Soft boots with walk mode: Do they exist?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:32 am 
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I'd rather have reliability than another bell and whistle that's just gonna break.
Shrednar has a good point. Simplicity usually wins out in the long run. But, walk mode would be nice in many of my bc trips.
On a seperate note, soft boots just don't last that long before they pack-out and feel like marshmellows.


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