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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:06 pm 
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tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.

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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:35 pm 
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barrows wrote:
tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.


What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:42 pm 
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shredgnar wrote:
barrows wrote:
tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.


What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy


Ahhh, youth. Reinvent tricks of old and give them new names. Look back to the days of Dan Donelly… he was quite fond of the frontside straight air.
To me, nothing going straight is an Indy, Indy's require a pool,quarter pipe, or half pipe and a 180 degree turn in the air for re-entry. But it is all just nomenclature. Reminds me of how many classic alpine climbs get new names in new guidebooks, even when they have well established names originally given by the first ascent party.

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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:47 pm 
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barrows wrote:
shredgnar wrote:
barrows wrote:
tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.


What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy


Ahhh, youth. Reinvent tricks of old and give them new names. Look back to the days of Dan Donelly… he was quite fond of the frontside straight air.
To me, nothing going straight is an Indy, Indy's require a pool,quarter pipe, or half pipe and a 180 degree turn in the air for re-entry. But it is all just nomenclature. Reminds me of how many classic alpine climbs get new names in new guidebooks, even when they have well established names originally given by the first ascent party.



But you are confusing two improperly named tricks. BTW, I'm more old school than you. Look at our join dates and times. I've got seniority. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:48 pm 
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Sorry Barrows, stick with hardboot knowledge. A tindy is a sloppy mix between a tailgrab and an indy. I'll agree with you that an indy can only be done on a backside wall or hip but in this case tindy is a derogatory term for a sloppy grab. I hope I've shamed anyone who proudly grabs tindy to man up and get that grab firmly between the feet whether it's a frontside air or a proper indy or reach all the way back and take hold of that tail.

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He's totally writing a 5000 word essay response right now! :)


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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
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shredgnar wrote:
barrows wrote:
shredgnar wrote:
barrows wrote:
tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.


What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy


Ahhh, youth. Reinvent tricks of old and give them new names. Look back to the days of Dan Donelly… he was quite fond of the frontside straight air.
To me, nothing going straight is an Indy, Indy's require a pool,quarter pipe, or half pipe and a 180 degree turn in the air for re-entry. But it is all just nomenclature. Reminds me of how many classic alpine climbs get new names in new guidebooks, even when they have well established names originally given by the first ascent party.



But you are confusing two improperly named tricks. BTW, I'm more old school than you. Look at our join dates and times. I've got seniority. ;)


Hmmm! I do not think "old schoolness" could be defined by a join date? But, really, I would rather be younger than you, so I will accept being so in the ether of the Internet at least, hahaha.
I did not see in the picture that it was a tail grab? I guess my vision is getting bad. It was my impression that this was a tuck knee grab between the feet, if not, then for sure I am mistaken.
For clarity, a rear hand grab between the feet, whether tuck knee or not, going off a straight jump/drop, was referred to as a Frontside Straight Air back in the day. I always resist calling any straight air an Indy, as I would consider that disrespectful to the skaters the like of Duane Peters, who made the Indy a much more committing move than the standard backside air of the day, especially when performed in an environment like the original Combi Pool in Upland.

EDIT: just went back and looked at the two pics, now I get it. you guys are referring the second picture (tail grab), I was referring to the first (between the feet grab). Sorry for the misunderstanding. BTW, my knowledge comes from being a skateboarder, never did that in hard boots…

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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:28 pm 
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Ha! Thought I could get this thread back on track with some schweet hardbootin' airs. But nope. It must be a slow Monday at work for everybody.

Indeed, the tindy 'tis not the noblest creature on the mountain. My mention of it being the winning trick was an act of self deprication. Amazingly, wikipedia has it covered for the unaware with the first google search result:

"The tindy is a snowboard grab in which the snowboarder grabs with his/her rear hand between the rear binding and the tail of the board on the toe edge. Its name is derived from a combination of the indy grab and the tail grab. The tindy grab is generally considered poor form in snowboarding."

Here's another run, with proper tail grab form. Doesn't look as cool, though.

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Slow Monday indeed... :doobie:

K, so declaritive statement for the season #1 (and the first of many I'm sure): This year's Oregon Splitfest will feature a Soft (flaccid) vs. Hard air contest. Nothing off limits (bring your tindy, stinkbug, roast beef grabs!) Team Hard already has 'Rad' Chris so I'm feeling pretty good about our chances. Bring it team flaccid! :rock:


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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:41 pm 
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mofoco wrote:
Ha! Thought I could get this thread back on track with some schweet hardbootin' airs. But nope. It must be a slow Monday at work for everybody.

Image



Hilarious, love that bottom left corner.

Looks like somebody has the time to waste putting it up on Wiki.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Snow ... _grabs.jpg


Is it Ok to grab tindy doing an Iguana Backflip?

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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
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I never thought indy grabs looked or felt that steezy. Mute grabs feel and look way better imo. Tail grabs are sorta in between....not really into grabs at all to be honest. Methods are the shizz. I still need to learn how to do one. Maybe this year!


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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:54 pm 
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BTW, my knowledge comes from being a skateboarder, never did that in hard boots…


It wouldn't surprise me if you had though....

OK, sorry, stop picking Barrows. He means well. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: hard boot AIRS WITH STYLE
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:52 pm 
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BGnight wrote:
I never thought indy grabs looked or felt that steezy. Mute grabs feel and look way better imo. Tail grabs are sorta in between....not really into grabs at all to be honest. Methods are the shizz. I still need to learn how to do one. Maybe this year!


Uh oh bg you just let your gaperedness slip out.

Doing a mute grab strait air is almost as bad as doing a tindy grab.

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