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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:52 am 
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Is the prospector essentially a raptor with taper? If so, I think that thing will crush it!


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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:09 pm 
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Forrest: the specs I posted are what I received by e-mail from NS, they confirmed that the specs currently on the website are incorrect, so the "average" radius is 890 (if these specs are correct, hahaha).
Of course, the way NS figures their "average" radius is different from how, for instance, Venture figures their sidecut radius "equivalent". If you figure it the Venture way (deriving a radius from edge length and sidecut depth as a section of an circle) the specs NS gave me get one a 9.98 m radius. For comparison to other boards, I think this number is better than NS' published "average", which apparently just averages the different radii they use.
It is still hard for me to think the 167X really has 134 cm of edge contact though… that would make for very short tip and tail, I guess it is possible though.
Jason: I think the Prospector is its own board, if you consider the flex index, and the taper, it appears to quite different front he Raptor. I got out last spring with killclimbz on a day where he had the 161X Prospector for demo, he liked it, as he reported a few posts back. If NS' flex index is right, it looks like the Prospector will be a little more forgiving than the Raptor, and with the significant taper and setback, should have a much more forgiving tail.

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:35 am 
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The 160 is a 26.4 waist and the 164 is 25.5? That has to be a mistype as well?

I love the Raptor, that board charges. It is a little stiff though and will buck you if you aren't on it (similar to a venture). I need a few more good days on it, but its an awesome board. The cobra sounds awesome too, and the prospector super awesome. I'll be interested to hear how it does.


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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:41 am 
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summersgone wrote:
The 160 is a 26.4 waist and the 164 is 25.5? That has to be a mistype as well?

I love the Raptor, that board charges. It is a little stiff though and will buck you if you aren't on it (similar to a venture). I need a few more good days on it, but its an awesome board. The cobra sounds awesome too, and the prospector super awesome. I'll be interested to hear how it does.


Yeah, I saw that too. The published specs are all over the place. Since NS acknowledged to me that the 167X specs were wrong, I bet most of what is on the website (Prospector page) is wrong. I e-mailed them and suggested that they should check it out and make changes, hopefully they will follow through in the next week or so...
My dealer and I called NS engineering a couple of months back, and we talked to someone about the Prospector, he did not know much about it, but this guy was all jazzed up on the Cobra-I guess for the all-mountain freestyle resort riders that board is supposed to be special...

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:28 am 
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The waist should be close to the 160 maybe just a few millimeters wider.

I've said it before, the Prospector is a rock solid choice. Did a fair amount of touring on it this spring and it performed to my expectations. It was a charger on steep corn lines for sure. This board is a top choice for me.

I really want to get it out in powder conditions, I think it will really shine there.

*Actually just checked their site, they have the waist at 26.8 which I am sure is accurate*


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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:18 pm 
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i got my hands on a 167X prospector now....
typical NS craftsmanship, flawless, smooth, clean lines, beautifully built, bombproof, im sure.
nice graphics, bright! base, great design, i can't wait to get it on snow.
the deck came with a spec sheet with numbers a bit different than the webpage: waist 26.4cm, edge 130, tip/tail 31.8/29.8, the board measured true to this and weighed in at 8.31 lbs with hooks and clips.
(other sizes of the model were described: 160 - 25.0, 123, 30.4/28.4, 164 - 25.2, 130, 30.6/28.6, 161X - 26.4, 126, 31.8/29.8 )
the stick was born to rip shred big lines!
big ups to the NS crew, nice work!!!

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
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Thanks for the numbers. Sad that there could be so much confusion surrounding such a critical aspect of a product.

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:23 am 
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Thanks Mark! That is good to know. Sounds like I may try one of these in 167X as well. BTW, crazy flooding here in Colorado, folks out there, please send us some good vibes.

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:22 pm 
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Tomorrow I am picking up a 167X Prospector, psyched...

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:23 pm 
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I would love a 161X. Maybe when stuff goes on sale next spring... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:33 pm 
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Picked up my new 167X Prospector yesterday. Also got a full tour of the Never Summer production facility, and saw every phase of the complete board building process. NS has quite a few unique approaches within their boards. I was impressed at the level of detail and the unique layup they use. Too bad it will be a few months before I dare take out the new board and really get a feel for it!
The 167X is a little bigger than my Storm (166 x 26) and it weighs about 10 ounces less, not super light, but surely a decent weight for a board which feels quite burly in the hand.

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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:23 am 
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Got mine yesterday. Had a blast on the 161X this spring can't wait to ride some powder on the 167X :bananas:


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 Post subject: Re: 13/14 Never Summer Prospector Splitboard
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:12 pm 
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Has anyone looked at the NS raven?? I would love to hear some opinions on this women's board. I have very basic knowledge of specs and what they all mean so its hard for me to interpret the info that's online. Anyone rode anything like it? Or seen any reviews?

http://neversummer.com/snowboards/split ... ven-split/

Thank you for the ideas!


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