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 Post subject: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:38 am 
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Going to be touring some huts in Europe and none of my packs seems to be just right. I have the recent Deuter Freeride Pro 30L but I don't believe it is a true 30L, feels more like my Burton AK 23L that I use for inbounds days. I need to carry axe, crampons, Mr Chomps, skins, shovel, probe, gps, camera, lunches, water, and clothing for a week. No sleeping bag, tent, ropes or anything like that. I feel like the way they split the compartments in the Deuter makes it carry smaller. My next pack is a 50L which is too big. I like carrying my board vertically on the back, and packs that have nice snowboard grips for this purpose are preferred. I also carry A-Frame sometimes. Looks like ArcTeryx used to make a 40L Silo, but now they don't do a single snowboard oriented pack.

Any recommendations for a snowboard oriented 40L pack? Do they carry large or small compared with other packs? Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:48 am 
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I recently purchased a Deuter Rise 32+ and used it on a day trip into a hut in the Pyrenees.
so far, it works great! I was carrying crampons, chomps, ice axe, primaloft, fleece, cooking gear, liner sleeping bag, some food, avy equipment, and helmet.
I distributes the weight really well, the a-frame ski carry is a bit tight but it fits a splitboard, and it also has the option of carry it in snowboard mode.

the material is super durable as it always is with Deuter, and the size is 32 liters extendable to 40, which should be enough for what you're looking for!

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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:07 am 
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Arcteryx now makes the quintic 38, it's got a funky layout that takes some getting used too but is actually super functional, has vertical/horiztonal board carry, A frame and cross ski carry. It's got a teardrop/pear shape that spreads the weight out close to your center of gravity. Riding with it and carrying your board when climbing feels awesome, it feels like you are one with the pack.

The downsides are obviously price (but you can find on sale if you search enough I'm sure) and the weight/burliness. It's overbuilt in a good way but I think they could have saved some weight in some key areas. Long story short I love it, it took some getting used to packing it properly but once I got that dialed I give it a 8.5 or 9 out of 10.

http://arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?langua ... Quintic-38


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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:31 pm 
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Dakine Guide. Good organization, easy access even with a board strapped on, multiple solid board/ski carry options, holds a ton of gear but doesn't flop around. This pack is a bit bigger, the Poacher and Blade are identical but smaller, but the way the pack compresses I'd go with the largest just in case.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:16 am 
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Ortovox Haute Route 45.
http://www.ortovox.com/tour/haute-route-45

No other pack (in this size) I know sits on your back that stable. And this is of particular importance for us snowboarders, as we ride by turning our upper body.
In comparison, a Deuter Guide 45 for instance wobbles a lot more.

Vertical Snowboard carry possible,
can also carry my board halves in A-frame, by using additional straps supplied with the backpack.
Access to main compartment possible when snowboard mounted,
Ice axes and rope attachment.

Comes a tad smaller than other 45l backpacks.

Also available as a 35 litre version, which however is a bit too small for multi-day trips. Additional weight (60g) of the 45l-version vs. the 35l-version is negligible anyway, so I would always go for the 45l.


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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:06 am 
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FloImSchnee wrote:
In comparison, a Deuter Guide 45 for instance wobbles a lot more.


I am not sure how you organize your pack, nor how you adjust it. I have never had a problem with either my Deuter Glide 35+ or Guide 45+ 'wobbling', nor have I ever heard of anyone else with this observation. There are several ski mountaineer guides in the Sierra that I have seen using the Deuter Guide 45, so I really doubt they have problems with load/pack stability.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:31 pm 
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96avs01 wrote:
I have never had a problem with either my Deuter Glide 35+ or Guide 45+ 'wobbling'
Well, it must not necessarily be a problem. I however realized that I can ride much better when my backpack moves as similarly as my body as possible.

96avs01 wrote:
There are several ski mountaineer guides in the Sierra that I have seen using the Deuter Guide 45
Sure, skiers keep their upper body much more stable in terms of rotation.

The Deuter Guide 45 definitely is a great backpack. However for riding fun I found out that I prefer an Ortovox pack with that wide support much more.


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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:15 am 
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Some of the Deuter packs, like the Guide and the Rise, have the Vario Flex belt, which fixes the belt to your hips but you can move laterally.

I find it very useful and comfortable when having a heavy pack and snowboarding, it allows you to move while having the backpack perfectly attached to your back.

Also the Ortovox Haute Route has a wider shape than the Guide or the Rise, so the weight sits further than your back and your mass center. With the mentioned Deuter packs, as they are longer, the weight is more distributed along your back.

I've tried the Ortovox 26 liters version... it has a good fit, better than most of the ones out there, but IMO nothing beats the Deuter fit.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:01 am 
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I've been using the osprey kode series for years and been extremely happy with them. They carry extremely well, I never notice any weight on my shoulders and the back panel contours perfectly after a little use. The body is narrow also, never gets in the way of arm movement. I usually forget that I'm wearing a pack.
The storage is ample and well thought out (hip pockets are clutch, sun block, chap stick, shot blocks, phone/camera all easy to get to). The helmet carry on the 30 and 38 both work well.

I use the 22 for day trips/sled access and the 38 for longer approaches and overnighters. I was easily able to pack everything for a few day yurt trip in the 38 this year. Hell I even managed to cram everything for a Rainier summit last summer, rest of the group had +60 packs :thumpsup:

I've tried the haute route pack, torso size was far too long and put weight on my shoulders. Did one summer trip up to Muir and sent it back to BC. I've tried dakine, they never seem to get weight nicely on my hips.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 40L Pack Recommendation for Euro Hut tour
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:19 pm 
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I ended up getting an Osprey Kode 38l on sale at REI. It packs really well, feeling more like a 40l. I also really like the back panel access. It carries the board great as a solid, as well as in A frame mode. It is hard to know what you will like until you really start using it in the field.


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