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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:22 pm 
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g3 reds are still good after 2 years for me.


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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:24 pm 
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philip.ak wrote:
Go to a hardware store and get a roll of "gutter guard".

hey thanks for that! It's been working well for me. I guess it's bulky, but at least it is light. I used hockey tape on the edges.


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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:41 pm 
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thanks for the input, guys


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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:19 pm 
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Here's another option.

Get some 2" diameter bulk discharge/fire hose. It is a vinyl-coated nylon and is available in many marine stores. It is a little over 3" wide when the hose is laid flat. Cut one edge off so you can 'unfold' the hose length-wise, and use your waxing iron to warm the center crease through a piece of baking parchment paper to flatten the hose. The final width is over 6", so I trimmed it down using a straight edge and a box cutter. I made mine 30" long, so I stick half the skin to one side and then fold the skin over and stick it to the back side, then fold that sandwich in thirds. Infinitely durable and waterproof with no sharp edges or anything that needs finishing.

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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:55 pm 
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philip.ak wrote:
Here's another option.

Get some 2" diameter bulk discharge/fire hose. It is a vinyl-coated nylon and is available in many marine stores. It is a little over 3" wide when the hose is laid flat. Cut one edge off so you can 'unfold' the hose length-wise, and use your waxing iron to warm the center crease through a piece of baking parchment paper to flatten the hose. The final width is over 6", so I trimmed it down using a straight edge and a box cutter. I made mine 30" long, so I stick half the skin to one side and then fold the skin over and stick it to the back side, then fold that sandwich in thirds. Infinitely durable and waterproof with no sharp edges or anything that needs finishing.




this looks awesome. how much did you pay for the hose though? were you able to buy a small amount, or did you have to buy a full hose length? with a quick search on the interweb i've only been able to find it being sold as entire hose lengths, which would make the cost pretty much equal or more than the g3 love glove sacky thing...

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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:11 pm 
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The local marine/hardware store has it by the foot in a few different diameters. I bought 5 feet (enough for one set of cheat sheets) at $1.49 per foot. So about $7.50 total for one set of skins.

In the mean time I made a couple more sets for me, and I just gave a pair to a friend. The stuff works great so far. The glue releases effortlessly. :doobie:

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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:07 am 
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Hey Phillip,

Nice looking skins! Did you make those? I see some BD/Spark hardware and "split skin" style materiel in the middle? Detail please.

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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:37 am 
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They are just standard BD STS splitskins where I cut the tip at an angle and used a Spark tail clip. For the most part they work ok for splitboarding. Grip is fine most of the time, but when they let loose they don't just slip, but rather rocket backwards. :shock: The center stripe of sailcloth does not glide as well as one might hope either. They do save some weight though. Normal BD Ascension skins are overall a safer bet. These things get very mixed reviews from skiers, and it is well deserved.

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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:04 am 
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For Christmas I made a bunch of friends pairs of skin sacks. I took nylon taffeta from the fabric store and cut it into 16"x20" sections. I folded them up into 8"x20" bags and talked my sister into sewing the edges together leaving a 7" opening at one end. I had to seal the sewn edge to prevent fraying but they have been durable and light so far. I've used them a lot now.

To use them I stick my hand one turning it inside out and grab the tail of my skin. As I start to peel the skin off my board I turn the sack right side out onto the skin so that the last third of the skin is inside the sack. Then I roll the skin over one side and back up the other side so it is stuck to the sack on both sides. The skin ends up rolled into thirds and is easily folded in half again (so it's in sixths now) and tucked into a pack. To put the skin back on the ski I hook the tip clip while the skin is still in the sack and then just unroll it. It's something that I learned about from a friend who has done a lot of touring in the alps.

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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:31 am 
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The bag idea sounds solid. The one bummer about opaque cheat sheets is that in windy conditions since you can't see through the cheat sheet, so lining it up perfectly on the skin can be tricky as everything flaps around. With the bag your aim probably doesn't need to be good. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: cheat sheets that don't fall apart and stick to skins?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:23 am 
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One of the nice things about the bag is that nothing is flapping in the wind. By the time the bag is already covering a third of the skin the front half of the skin and the tip clip are still on the board and keeping tension in the skin. I get the second third stuck to the bag before I pull the tip clip. Putting the skins back on is the reverse and has been flap free. I have not been out in blizzard winds yet but I don't doubt that they'll be easier to deal with than cheat sheets.

The only downside is that I've sized my bags to work best with thin gloves or without gloves. If you climb in thicker gloves you'll probably need more than a 7" opening to get your hand inside the bag.

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