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 Post subject: Re: K2 introduces the new "Kwicker" splitboard system -
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:11 pm 
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Can't wait to get me hands on the system

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but, the boots need work.
Reliable both boot release in avalanche far outweighs the current flaws. Been there done that.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:37 pm 
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I loved my clicker system for splitting before the boots shit the bed. One piece in the sole actually pulled out while riding! But I loved the ease of use; and so light. But like others have said, the boots were the worst part of the system.
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Rode with a guy with clickers ONCE. We had to boot up a steep section. At the top he couldn't "click in" because the pocket on boot bottom was packed with ice. We worked on it for awhile (in blizzard conditions)(had to take gloves off, frozen fingers) and all seemed good so off I went. Waited for an hour (I seriously thought he died in a slide, hit his noggin on a rock, broke a leg...) and just began skinning back up for my buddy when he emerged from the white haze, walking. He had to walk down because his board wouldn't stay on.

^^^^And I never had an experience like this.

But after investing in new Sparks and Solomons, I doubt I'll be going back.
Interesting though.

Anybody else see that touring bracket?

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 Post subject: Re: K2 introduces the new "Kwicker" splitboard system -
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Well my interest is in the ability to sidehill on steep sections, that connection point, 2 to be exact does not look like it would provide much stability on the uphill or downhill ski, looks flimsy. To me it looks like the engineered something to be light and convenient to get into, but did not think much about the touring aspect, which should be the first thing to consider since one spends more time going up than down. good on them for doing something different, I am sure The Sports Authority, Dicks and other big chains will be stoked to sell them. I hope they show up at some of the various splitfests because to date I have not seen one K2 representative at one of them, so to me that puts them far out of touch from the target market. Lets see what they do


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Slackcountry wrote:
To me it looks like the engineered something to be light and convenient to get into, but did not think much about the touring aspect, which should be the first thing to consider since one spends more time going up than down.


My thoughts exactly. Take your 12 year old clicker system, slap it on some current-gen midrange product, (have your marketing manager instead of an actual splitboard athlete do the product testing!?! :nononno: :scratch: :nononno:) and market it to noobs.

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Dicks and other big chains will be stoked to sell them.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

...Also, keep an eye out for these in the gear swap section in the next few years. Atomic Poacher anyone?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:54 pm 
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you might not like that aspect of these Slack. One of the things I really like about the clickers is a lot of side to side wobble in the binding before you even flex the boot. looser than a strap in really. the old bindings had little cushions that you could build up to make medial flex stiffer, we don't use any medial supports in our mods out here but that could be a Utah snow-snob thing as most firm places where you have to sidehill here are short and manageable or avoidable altogether.

I would say if you are even close to the hard boot fence and like skinning focused boots for difficult snow, Clickers aren't for you by a longshot. If you recognize that there are a lot of days in your touring where any bindings at all may be a little superfluous, then you are more of a clicker candidate.

looks like their Boa-Conda named design specifically addressed lack of an external ankle strap, cool


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Does it have a walk mode? Forward lean adjustment? A boot stiff enough to ride without a high back does not sound fun to tour in, if it has a real walk mode with rear articulation and forward lean adjustment then thats something. Then i ask... If a binding is not supporting me while i tour, why do i need the plate?, lets see some dynafit, nnn style boot. if i dont need a plate to tour, why dont i use some sparks for the way down? because the people like straps. K2 i think your doing it wrong.

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[*]I loved my clicker system for splitting before the boots shit the bed. One piece in the sole actually pulled out while riding! But I loved the ease of use; and so light. But like others have said, the boots were the worst part of the system. (Not sure how to qoute (or spell) and really lazy sorry Rico)

My buddy still rides those clicker boots afters 10 years of abuse, they look like torcher devises. But i think this system looks sweet (all depends on the boot). In a perfect world the boot would join the board halves (and release in an avalanche) plus use the dyna system for touring. Frankly the real kicker here for me will be price$$$$ The hard boot systems looks great but the coin is fucking ridiculous. I'm touring with Insano focus boas this year and so far i'm pretty bummed on the no walk mode.


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When I think of K2 clickers I think of second rate rental shops...

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Frankly I don't see why many of you have such a hate-on for this system. Many of you in hardboots aren't going to be swayed by a new system, and many of us in soft boots with sparks/karakoram probably won't switch either...unless it's to hard boots. That being said I'd be interested to try it before I threw it under the bus...and that's exactly what I plan on doing. I think it's an interesting concept, something that is certainly more feasible and realistic with newer technologies than older step-in systems. If if it works, and works well, awesome, and if it doesn't then it's really no skin off of anyones back is it?


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 Post subject: Re: K2 introduces the new "Kwicker" splitboard system -
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I split, but I also spend a lot of time (prob more) on solids, and I am def not interested in having a split-only boot, or in putting step-in bindings on my other boards. I would like the channels for stance adjustment though, and the ultra dream rides real nice


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I have a friend who's adapted Burton Step-in for his splits, and swears by it - never seen him have any problems, and he tours a lot. Seems like a pretty great system, if only it was still being made (and the boots)

I'm not liking the K2's setup being bolted onto the voile slider pucks though... seems like a lot of extra stuff, and higher off the board than it should be


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 Post subject: Re: K2 introduces the new "Kwicker" splitboard system -
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I can see this being a big deal for the sport, especially if it proves reliable and effective. I don't think it can be compared to old clicker systems fairly. But who knows. Honestly, I think riders love their highbacks too much.
4 lbs. is a lot of weight to lose.


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Their weight savings claim of four pounds says a lot. To me, it says, "our target market knows jack shit about splitboarding, so lets make these outrageous claims of weight savings, they'll never know the difference!"

Saving four pounds off a Voile plate, with a binding, and boot is not a straight up comparison. I haven't heard of anyone but the noobiest of noobs who still uses the voile plates. Now, if they compared their system's weight to a pair of Karakorams or Sparks, I'm guessing the weight savings is much less.

I'm just not sold on these at all. But good luck to K2 selling them.


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