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 Post subject: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:16 pm 
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Just picked them up, and am super stoked on them. Haven't ridden them yet but plan to in the coming weeks.

First impressions:

Pros:
Heel Welt means no more strap crampons, can use real crampons
Lacing system seems easier to dial in than last years
Vibram sole is bomber
Forward flex is about as stiff as Drivers/T1s/etc...
Still feels like a snowboard boot, albeit with some nice features

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The main thing in my mind is, why not make the whole toe box area hard plastic? This might add an oz per boot or something, but would address the wear issues seen on last years' boots. And kicking steps in hardpack conditions would be way more stable. Xavier, you listening? :lol:

Other than the heel welt and changing the colors, I'm not sure what other updates have been made since last year. I'm stoked to get out on these things and try them out.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:10 pm 
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Jefe009 wrote:
I'm not sure what other updates have been made since last year.

You're forgetting the "XV" for added Xavier factor.

But seriously sweet. Enjoy. I can't wait to hear more.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:47 pm 
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jefe,

Thanks for the initial review. A couple preguntas about how the XV's compare to last years model:

overall bulk: Is a size 10 (for example) XV the same size toe to heel as a size 10 of last year's boot? How about overall exterior bulk of the toe, ankle and shin areas?

backward flex: For flat touring and all day/multiday comfort does the boot upper allow any backward flex?

I liked the Sparks from last year but I did find them "bigger" than previous boots. I couldn't even get some lightweight spring pants over the uppers and I had more toe/heel drag than I had before.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
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dishwasher-dave wrote:
overall bulk: Is a size 10 (for example) XV the same size toe to heel as a size 10 of last year's boot? How about overall exterior bulk of the toe, ankle and shin areas?


I think they are exactly the same design/profile as last years. As far as I can tell. They are still 'big' boots. I do notice that it's an upgraded intuition liner over last years.

dishwasher-dave wrote:
backward flex: For flat touring and all day/multiday comfort does the boot upper allow any backward flex?


Very little. There is some level of forward lean, but side/back flex is very limited. I imagine this is to improve the stiff riding feel and help with sidehilling.

Related: Deeluxe is apparently selling more of last year's model as a model this year. (Leftovers?) They are on the website. They are retailing for a lot less than last year.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:30 pm 
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We got to check them out at the Silverton Splitfest last year. They are quite a bit different and improved. Smaller, lighter, heel welt and different materials too. I'm sure the distributors could cover the changes better than I but I thought it was a good example of a product maturing.

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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:54 pm 
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Jefe009 wrote:
Related: Deeluxe is apparently selling more of last year's model as a model this year. (Leftovers?) They are on the website. They are retailing for a lot less than last year.


they are still selling the spark (no changes) for 12/13, and have the upgrade xv.

jefe you blew it, should bought from me...%%%%%

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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:44 am 
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If Next wouldn't leave my pockets broken every time I walk out of there I'd have bought em from ya... :lol:

JK buddy. Glad you made it out last night.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:09 pm 
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how is the fit compared to other shoes / boots? I don't think I would buy a product like this online unless I knew the exact size I would need.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:39 pm 
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Just got my first mini tour on these. Headed up Palmer on Hood to get some early season pow turns (pretty nice btw... 8) ) and they are great. Skin well, ride great, what else do you want. They have a very big profile, I had to move my binding buckles to their largest setting just to get em to catch.

Only toured about 3 miles, so no feedback on long term comfort. Overall, very pleased with them.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
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Ahhh...crap dude. Forgot you texted me. I was on the east coast for a couple weeks. Back now, and ready to get out.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
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I both the last years model and didn't even bother riding them.
The shoe was soo big that i could barely strap them on and my toe would stick out massively.
actually they were almost 1 inch longer than other brands ton the same size.
Would love to have that vibram sole for mountaineering but until they get rid of the huge bulk its a no go for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:31 pm 
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vasco wrote:
I both the last years model and didn't even bother riding them.
The shoe was soo big that i could barely strap them on and my toe would stick out massively.
actually they were almost 1 inch longer than other brands ton the same size.
Would love to have that vibram sole for mountaineering but until they get rid of the huge bulk its a no go for me.


Yeah, that's kind of a downer. I wish they could bring down the size, but if you look at Deeluxe's other boots they are all kind of bulky.

However, these boots ride amazingly well. Unless you have huge feet and a skinny board, I don't really see the downside to the size other than that they are a little heavier than other boots.

IMHO the size is a very small tradeoff for the sole, comfort, rideability, crampon compatibility, etc....


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 Post subject: Re: Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions...
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:20 am 
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vasco wrote:
Would love to have that vibram sole for mountaineering but until they get rid of the huge bulk its a no go for me.


well, k2 has a boot with vibram sole aswell: http://k2snowboarding.com/product/thrax ... ry=2011-12
but that's about as much as i know about that boot.

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