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 Post subject: Re: Further
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:55 pm 
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I think the sweetgrass crew could make a better movie with the same riders and same locations.
That would be a killer collaboration. I love sweetgrass, the nail the lifestyle and feel of backcountry, and I think they make some of the best movies out there, but with Solitare, there is so minimal amount of riding, just quick "teaser style" shots that piss me off. I want to see the shred more with them. Otherwise, their films kick major ass.

I haven't seen Further yet, holding out to a live premier currently. And I'm sure I'll be stoked still.


I haven't seen any other Sweetgrass films but I agree about Solitaire, where is the riding? Too arty, the narration from Heart of Darkness (or whatever it was) in Spanish was cheesy. The shots of crosses, cow skulls, fences, and feathers blowing in the wind were visually stunning but it still felt like a college film student project.

All that said, I'm probably going to watch it again.

Opinions on the movie Steep? It's more documentary than ski film but it's still my favorite. The segment with Bill Briggs just about makes me tear up every time...

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 Post subject: Re: Further
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I did like steep.

The new TGR ski movie Dream factory was pretty awesome in my opinion. It wasn't just the typical TGR one upping their last movie it was a lot more introspective. The re-skied a lot famous movie lines and did a history of the Alaska ski frontier days.

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 Post subject: Re: Further
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South America is a whole other ball game I'm sure when it comes to making a movie. Especially if you are trying to film on the high peaks that get ravaged by wind. I think they had a couple rough seasons on top of that?

We need to get the Sweetgrass guys to follow Snowsavage around for a season. Throw in Jason Hummel for good measure.

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 Post subject: Re: Further
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:34 pm 
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Agreed on all fronts. Did Terje put on the split for a couple skinning photo ops? He rode everything on his solid.


Terje is on the Burton team, sponsored by Burton. Do you think he carried a 2nd solid Burton board around the whole time because he liked the extra weight? Or do you think he was told that he was obliged to ride his sponsors board?

I know what I think and it's not the first option.

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 Post subject: Re: Further
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:39 am 
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HikeforTurns wrote:
We need to get the Sweetgrass guys to follow Snowsavage around for a season. Throw in Jason Hummel for good measure.


That would be sweet!! Especially if there were sufficient funds so SS didn't have to work a day job. SS without a leash, what would be come up with? :rock:


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 Post subject: Re: Further
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I really enjoyed Further. Went to the Fort Collins premiere and it was cool to see on the big screen. I was surprised not to see Xavier in any of the parts. Anybody know why?


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 Post subject: Re: Further
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So while they are flying everything in by plane to basecamp anyways (I guess not in every case), why not take a couple of trips to bring in fuel for heli powered filming. Man powered climbing is really what is really pushed in the movies anyways. Aren't they still reaching their basecamps by machine?!

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 Post subject: Re: Further
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rughty wrote:
So while they are flying everything in by plane to basecamp anyways (I guess not in every case), why not take a couple of trips to bring in fuel for heli powered filming. Man powered climbing is really what is really pushed in the movies anyways. Aren't they still reaching their basecamps by machine?!



I think that you are missing the point of what JJ is trying to achieve. Believe me, if one is dropped off by plane on a glacier in Wrangell/St Elias NP, the feeling of isolation is immense, especially if you are staying for awhile. The process they are going through is qualitatively different than that which would be achieved by using helicopters. Additionally, where they are going, helicopters are not permitted for recreational purposes.
If one wants to see movies made with helicopters, and snow machines, watch TBwhatever.
I applaud the fact that Jeremy Jones is trying to explore riding in areas not accessible by heli, and is seeking out new experiences.

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 Post subject: Re: Further
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:16 am 
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PedroDelfuego wrote:
I did like steep.


X2.

I hear what you guys are saying about the endless powder aprons and crumbly, stacked spines begging to be crushed... But damn, isn't that what we want?

If you want freestyle progression look no further (no pun intended) than the Mack Dawg flicks from the 90's.

"Deeper" and now "Further" represent what JJ meant for it to represent, a window of opportunity for regular folks like me to camp and ride untracked fresh pow with friends. Endless pow. Pow so plentiful some may even take it for granted.

Thought the movie was beautiful, plenty of amazing riding (how sick was that Japan segement?!) and more travel tales from JJ and friends.


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 Post subject: Re: Further
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I just watched it last night. I get what BG is saying, and I kind of agree. A lot of the same "type" of riding, big lines on huge mountains, wheras Deeper had a bit more variety with some deep pow tree riding. I too would have liked a bit more of the POV and some more documentary as well.

But I really want to watch it a few more times before passing any judgement. Definitely stoked me out, but first impression was that I like Deeper a bit better. Hope Higher has a himalayan aspect to it, maybe some more off the beaten paths like the Svalbard segment.

Why Terje wasn't on a Freebird or other custom split is beyond me. Burton certainly has the skrill to make it happen, especially as they expand into the split market. I thought that was a disservice to the theme of the film. :nononno:

Best line of the whole movie was the "Art" spoof. "Get a shitload of Clif bars and go....HERE!!!" (points to map) :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Further
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tiltedworld wrote:
Best line of the whole movie was the "Art" spoof. "Get a shitload of Clif bars and go....HERE!!!" (points to map) :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was pretty freakin' funny

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 Post subject: Re: Further
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Terje is on the Burton team, sponsored by Burton. Do you think he carried a 2nd solid Burton board around the whole time because he liked the extra weight? Or do you think he was told that he was obliged to ride his sponsors board?

I know what I think and it's not the first option.

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Burton makes splits. I think Terje rode what he wanted to, given the nature of the trip and the fact that it involved snow machines and a lot of bootpacking up steep stuff...

That said, I thought Further was a great movie. What he did, in contrast to Deeper, was go to unexplored, more committing places to ride. I think it's a great evolution of what Jones is up to, and will probably have this piece in regular rotation this year. It wasn't intended as snow porn, but more an adventure documentary, showing what's possible given enough time in unexplored mountains. My $.02, at least.

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