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 Post subject: Getting started Hard Booting in Australia?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:40 pm 
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Hi All,

I am a very experienced snowboarder, of a racing background, but I'm not entirely happy with the splitboard set up that I have. I hate being slower than the skiers! As a fairly unhandy female it's pretty intimidating trying to get together all the necessary components of a HB set up. Especially as I live in Australia. Gear here is ridiculously expensive so I would order online but I'm pretty keen to get boots from someone that can help me modify them.

My friend at my local store has suggested just getting some boots to ride first to see if I like them - I'm looking at TLT5s as the seem far and away the best performing and lightest (key here where touring often involves hiking long distances up to snowline). I don't really want to start drilling a new board so will look at resetting up my current split with dynafit bindings and then deciding if I like the set up. Although all the forums existing are helpful for details I would love someone to help me out with where to start - would you buy boots first and go from there? Can I really satisfactorily re-drill my current split board? What would you do?

In addition, does anyone in Melbourne have a HB setup I could perhaps check out prior to committing?

Would love anyone's suggestions as a basic how to go about this!

By the way just back from an awesome touring trip to Mt. Bogong - anyone who doubts Aussie snow should check out some of the lines up there!


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 Post subject: Re: Getting started Hard Booting in Australia?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:42 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Getting started Hard Booting in Australia?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:23 pm 
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The hard booting thing looks harder than it really is... here are the steps I would go through if I were you:

1. Buy some boots. I would recommend the TLT5s for a bunch of reasons you can find on this board. I really think you need to try them on first though, they have less volume than most AT boots and don't really fit all feet. If you don't have a place to try them on and would rather buy online, I would suggest buying from this place:

http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/

I've bought a lot of things there and they've been good. I would emphasize that you're looking at the TLT5 Mountain, not the carbon TLT5.

2. Buy some plate bindings. Lots of options here, some of which can be very expensive. If you can find a used pair of bombers or burton race plates that would be best. The race plates will take a little bit of DIY but they're nice. If you don't like either of those options, you can always do this:

http://www.voile-usa.com/Merchant2/merc ... ct_Count=1

They're crappy and flexy but if you're not a very heavy person you should be okay until you can figure out a better approach. I've broken these before but I'm also 210lbs.

3. Buy some Dynafit toe pieces and adapters. These will bolt right on if you buy the adapters, no DIY.

http://www.sparkrandd.com/products/dyna ... d-radical/
http://www.sparkrandd.com/products/dyna ... apter-new/

Now that you have all of this stuff, you're ready to go. If you don't tighten down the upper buckle on the TLT5s, they will ride reasonably well stock. You shouldn't have to mod the boot at all to get going, just discard the removable tongue, cut off the power strap, and run a bit looser on the top buckle. Once you have the fit dialed in, you can start shaving off some cuff height or drilling out the lockout bar for more forward flex in ride mode. If you don't mind spending a bit of money you can hire those mods out to a machine shop or give a buddy with some mechanicial experience a case of beer. Just don't think you can't enjoy yourself without mods, if you're using the TLT5s with the above setup you're most of the way there already.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting started Hard Booting in Australia?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:11 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Getting started Hard Booting in Australia?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:55 am 
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Rad! You're heading in the right direction. I would definitely suggest the TLT5s, but the Scarpa F1s are another decent option.

Not sure if it's clear, but here is a point some people miss. The Dynafit toe pieces attach to a plate, that adapts the Dyna hole pattern to a splitboard hole apttern, no DIY (as Firstlight mentioned). The toe pieces are attached at all times. When you're in tour mode, your plate bindings go in your pack. When you're in ride mode you take them out of your pack and attach to the board.

Another thing to considor; the TLTs are easily modded to make them better for riding, the Scarpa F1s not so much (IMHO).

Finally, some of the guys here are working on their own after-market plate binding systems. Check out Keffler's system which he plans to start selling this year. Low profile, light and pretty slick.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting started Hard Booting in Australia?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:07 pm 
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Hi All,

I just wanted to thank you all for the enthusiastic responses. I'm so stoked on my new set up! I am now the proud owner of some Dynafit TLT5's, the voile bindings (though these are light and I can see how they are going to break so I've got some race bindings I might set up in the end), and some Dynafit toe pieces/adaptors.

My first day I just took out the split board on the resort with the hard boots and was so stoked with the downhill performance. WOW! I'm not sure why anyone rides with soft boots ever??? The responsiveness was so good, even with the board that was cut in half. I'm going to take to riding my resort board with hard boots too! Plus with the option of walk mode on the downhill, even really chalky deeps and slushy bumps felt rocking. Even better, this will assist with travel packing of splitboard, resort board, and skis - only one pair of boots necessary!

No one could wipe the smile off my face on Tuesday, so thanks for the assistance. It's nice to know that there are others out there willing to help, some of my skier friends/snowboarder buddies find this whole transition way too scary! On another note the guys down at Bumps in Elsternwick (in Melbourne) were fantastic at getting on board and helping me out with the boots, we are going to start working on shaping them better very soon.

Hope you're all getting stoked on the impending northern winter!

Alex


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