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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:30 pm 
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keffler wrote:
buell wrote:
Keffler, is there anyway to get your design to fit a 23 mondo TLT5? That is the size that Rebecca wears.

Thanks, Buell


If there are more of you out there who have a smaller boot ( Mondo 25 or less) and are interested, please PM me. The more people I have on that list the more motivation I have to get that design done and out there for you guys and gals.


I wear a 25 mondo TLT.


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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:03 pm 
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Good news for all you lucky people with small feet. I'll be making a S/M binding right out of the gate. It will have an overall length less than that of the M/L so you shouldn't get any bit of the binding overhanging the board edges. Little lighter too. Found it to bit a little money wiser to build two prototypes of the final design in the different sizes than just the one. However, did I ever tell you that prototyping is expensive??? Ouch. I sure hope this works.

S/M TLT5 Sizes: Mondo 23 - 28

M/L TLT5 Sizes: Mondo 26 - 30

Unfortunately, the S/M will have a slightly different interface pieces so you cannot put a S/M removalable plate on a board with interface parts for a M/L.

Any one have heart burn with that?


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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:24 pm 
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You rock Keffler!

Cannot wait to find out more.

Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:29 am 
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glad to see more info about these. Heard about them through the grapevine a few months ago and I'm stoked! sign me up for a s/m pair.

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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:02 pm 
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Here's another picture for you guys and gals. Because we should all "trust but verify". So I'm not exactly at 5/8" but really close. One thing that is very different is that the bottom of the entire binding mate flush with the top of the board. Feels like your foot is right on the deck. High riding hardboots no more.

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And as a point of reference, I took this picture of Barrows' setup. Granted this has the extra heel lift, but you get the idea. I think the best you could do with the slider system is if your boot was right on the top of the slider plate which would put the two about equal.

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I think Vapor's setup might get you a little closer to the board. Maybe there are some others out there to compare to, but I think this is not a bad start.


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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:58 pm 
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Keffler: Since it appears that the cants are actually optional, I think for comparisons sake, it might be good to spec the height without cants, as some may choose to ride with no cant, then those who do ride with a cant can figure the additional height (typically only an additional 3mm or so).

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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:23 am 
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Not wanting to steal the hype
keffler wrote:

I think Vapor's setup might get you a little closer to the board. Maybe there are some others out there to compare to, but I think this is not a bad start.

This is as close as I can get!

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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:05 am 
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Sorry about that FirstLight, they slipped my mind when I posted that up. You've got a sweet thing going for the puck system. For those who want to keep their existing voile interface system, this seems like the best option out there.

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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:43 pm 
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Keffler
I still want a pair of yours for my normal board, a have a little space left for another pair of bindings!
Do you have to use Dynafit for touring?

Cheers

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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:56 pm 
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firstlight wrote:
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I still want a pair of yours for my normal board, a have a little space left for another pair of bindings!
Do you have to use Dynafit for touring?

Cheers


Yes, Keffler's system is designed specifically for those who want to take advantage of the superiority of using the Dynafit toe piece for touring mode. This approach also allowed him to focus his attention on making the best binding for riding performance.

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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:25 pm 
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firstlight wrote:
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Do you have to use Dynafit for touring?

Cheers



Yes, the binding is only for the decent and you will need a Dynafit toe piece which you can buy from Spark R&D (http://www.sparkrandd.com/products/dynafit-speed-radical/ ) . I have some ideas on making a lightweight touring gismo, but one thing at a time. Part of this project is the hope of at least breaking even and if any positive coinage comes in, then use it for other ideas I've got rolling around in my head.


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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:10 am 
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:banghead: I have to stop taking stock off the shelves and using for myself, it's bad for the bottom line!

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 Post subject: Re: Hardboot specific binding
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:42 pm 
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My setup is a couple mm lower but without any adjustment.If the interface is solid these badboys will be a gamechanger as far as ride performance. Well worth the money


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