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 Post subject: Never Wet
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Forget trying to shave a half pound off your deck, how about just keeping snow off

http://www.neverwet.com/anti-icing.php


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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:04 pm 
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Exactly.

All the weight shaving in the world won't make a huge difference till we get the snow off. Hopefully these guys are going to market soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:20 pm 
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whistlermaverick wrote:
Exactly.

All the weight shaving in the world won't make a huge difference till we get the snow off. Hopefully these guys are going to market soon.


Well, your still saving weight :wink:

Has anybody found that different types of top sheets stick less? I have a mat finish top, seems it doesn't stick anymore than a glossy one to me, but I am not too sure.

http://www.zardoznotwax.com/what-is-notwax/faqs.php

I read that stuff can help, or rubbing wax on the top sheet. Any thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:13 pm 
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Anyone ever tried RainX? Was thinking of giving that a go on both the top sheet & Sparks.


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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:46 pm 
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KGN wrote:
whistlermaverick wrote:
Exactly.

Has anybody found that different types of top sheets stick less? I have a mat finish top, seems it doesn't stick anymore than a glossy one to me, but I am not too sure.


Today at the resort I noticed the only place that the snow was sticking to my topsheet was where it was black. I was very defined and obvious that the black surface was able to collect/transfer enough heat to create an icy spot for snow to collect. Long story short, black top sheet=more snow sticking.


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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:58 pm 
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maniacdave wrote:
Anyone ever tried RainX? Was thinking of giving that a go on both the top sheet & Sparks.


I RainX'd half of my Hovercraft split a few months ago (and left the other half untreated)... Did not notice any difference at all, the snow seemed to stick equally (in large amounts) on both sides.

Disclaimer: I only used a very minimal amount of RainX on the above mentioned first try. I plan to try it again with lots of RainX and see if it helps at all. (infact, maybe I will do that now, since I am going touring tomorrow).

I also read that Pledge, or any sort of wood treatment/dust remover can help... was thinking to try that next.

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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:10 am 
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Remember when applying any sort of repellent wax or formula the board has to be superclean before you apply. I have some nanotech stuff that I use on my car glass. I may try that.


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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:41 pm 
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I've been using liquid car wax and have had pretty good luck keeping the snow from sticking.

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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:49 am 
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Liquid wax - good tip. Anyone ever try simply rubbing wax onto a top sheet?

Chimera topsheets are p-tex to shed snow... http://www.chimerasnowboards.com/nonsticktopsheet.html ...Seems like it'd work without sacrificing too much durability (if tough enough for the bottom of a board, should be tough enough for the top).

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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:33 pm 
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I put a nice coat of RainX on the right side of my board (so the left ski while touring) on Thursday night and then went out on Friday for some laps.

After the first skin up (on the S.W. side, where there was more sun hitting the board & snow), I noticed no difference at all between the 2 halves.
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After the second skin up (on the shady N.E. side), I was surprised to see that the RainX'd ski (on the left in the below photo) actually had MORE snow stuck to it.
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There might be certain conditions where the RainX works... But personally I'm going to try other things in search of better results.

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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:43 pm 
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Noting that snow almost never sticks to the base of my board, I think that Chimera's ptex topsheets may be a great approach. Just hot wax the topsheet, perhaps with high silicone content spring snow wax, scrape and buff it out, and I believe there would be much less snow sticking. I also have it on good authority that the ptex topsheet offers very good durability, and additional damping vs traditional topsheet materials.
I do not have a Chimera (yet) to test this theorizing on, anyone with a Chimera care to comment?

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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:34 am 
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barrows wrote:
Noting that snow almost never sticks to the base of my board, I think that Chimera's ptex topsheets may be a great approach.

I think so too! This is the reason, why I ordered my next year's Prior Spearhead XTC with P-Tex as a topsheet. Hope that this will keep the snow off better.

It would be absurd to pay an upcharge for carbon contruction to save weight first, and then carry around 0,5-2kg of snow...


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 Post subject: Re: Never Wet
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:09 pm 
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P-tex top sheet +1, I'm going to use some rub on wax on the top sheet for a trip into some spring pow hopefully this weekend. Will report back...


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