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 Post subject: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:16 pm 
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I pretty much know what I like to ride, but I'd just like input from other riders for piece of mind.
I'm 6'2", I weigh 240lbs and live in southeast Alaska riding our thick and often heavy snow, so I ride boards in the 180ish size range. As most may know there aren't a lot of large boards to choose from. I've owned a venture divide, which I liked, but still would like people's opinions on the storm. I'm also looking at a Donek Hazelwood and Prior spearhead.
I do prefer and pretty much require a stiffer board that will stand up to a beating. Thank you in advance for responding!

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:50 pm 
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Fellow big gunner:

I'm 6'4" and 220 and I've written reviews of the 181 storm and a 187 custom donek.

181 storm: http://splitboard.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9729

187 donek: http://splitboard.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11094

The storms ride fairly loose for their size (easy to get into and out of turns, very maneuverable), which would be a good match for heavy coastal snow. Even though they ride loose, they ride stiff and solid. The looseness owes to rocker and geometry, not too much flex. In a perfect world on those boards, I would prefer a little less tail rocker and sidecut and a little more taper, tail stiffness and shovel width to make it more speed stable and less dive prone. I can only take the board to about 80-90% on a heel turn before it dives (not folds, but dives--it's a surface area and not stiffness issue) in low and medium density snow. Dense snow that is less easily penetrated might resolve that. In any case, the storm is a great all around board. I especially appreciate it at medium speeds in variable terrain--trees, topographically rough terrain--it just gets the job done. Past years' construction have been extremely bomber. They've shaved weight this year; my understanding is that this owes to lighter cores--I expect they'll still be bomber... But as bomber as they used to be?

Also remember that you can customize doneks at no extra charge. I recommend you also look into upsizing, stiffening, and de-side cutting the donek nomad. Unlike the hazel wood, has an early rise shovel which would be nice in coastal snow. My donek review geeks out pretty hard on design thinking; worth a read if you can tolerate it. I really like that board, especially its unsinkable shovel and speed stability.

Lastly, you need to talk to Scooby, who is on this forum. He has given lots of thought to big gun design and he is a shaper. If you like stiff and solid big guns, you need to confer with him too.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:21 pm 
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Nice, thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:06 pm 
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I edited my earlier post above with new info.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:08 am 
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Deffinately helpful, thanks! I am probably looking for something with an early rise and cambered under foot. Hopefully I get some time off of work to speak to the Donek people tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:39 pm 
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I'll have a post up soon on Taylor's board and look for his reviews of its merits this season. It's definitely the gnarliest, most solid board I've ever shaped. It's a 187, 29 at the rear foot (about 28mm waist-hasn't been split yet), about 3cms taper, thicker at the nose than any other board is in the middle. I predict it'll be the easiest turning board he's ever been on, great for meadow skipping and will open the door to riding faster with more stability, but we'll let him be the judge. It will be interesting to hear of another's experiences on the design.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:37 pm 
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Sounds about like something I'd like. Stability at speed.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:55 pm 
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Scooby2 wrote:
It's definitely the gnarliest, most solid board I've ever shaped. It's a 187, 29 at the rear foot (about 28mm waist-hasn't been split yet), about 3cms taper, thicker at the nose than any other board is in the middle.


So :twocents: :thatrocks: rad

Douglas what year is your Glissade?

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:00 am 
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I've owned three of them, the latest is probably from 08 I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:04 pm 
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I'm certainly interested in what Sconby does, but it would seem he's a bit busy for half the winter. I spoke with Sean at Donek, and interestingly enough, he recomended upsizing, stiffening and de-side cutting a nomad.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:45 pm 
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Douglas Mafia wrote:
I'm certainly interested in what Sconby does, but it would seem he's a bit busy for half the winter. I spoke with Sean at Donek, and interestingly enough, he recomended upsizing, stiffening and de-side cutting a nomad.


Yeah, that Sean is smart. :wink:

Glad you're figuring out your board situation.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:29 pm 
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I'm glad that us big boarders have a few options like Donek, and to find lesser known options like Scooby so we can ride what we want. I'd like to see support given to all options to keep that avenue open.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for reviews
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:30 am 
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I agree.

I will try to make time to post a list of the manufacturers of big gun (180+) splitboards. It would be a useful resource for those of us who prefer big guns. There are actually more options out there than you'd think.

Scooby2 yesterday sent me a picture of the core for the board he's shaping up for me. It's such a sweet shape, and he's doing such a beautiful job. He is definitely pushing backcountry snowboard design in a new and exciting direction.

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