The Palisades at Sugarbowl in Ca. were spectacular and there were a bunch of happy bc folks out. It was warming up and I got some insane buildup on my Voile skins. bigchubtest027 by Huck Pitueee, on Flickr
I brought one new homemade board to test and a spare incase the new one stunk.
Post subject: Re: Oh yes it happened!! October 7th split day.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:26 pm
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Anyone remember the line from Crocodile Dundee about the knife? That aint no swallowtail, this is a swallowtail... Joking aside, nice work on the splits and props for gett'n after it and sharing the stoke...
Post subject: Re: Oh yes it happened!! October 7th split day.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:42 am
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At last, an honest Fish shaped for the snow! I think its really cool you put in a 31 cm waist. that board actually might have the float of a 170 x 25cm that the hovercraft at only 26 cm claims to have, actually a lot more. I have not been able to figure out a good low tech way to measure cm surface area of a board. But with a little shorthand math, it looks like an extra 5cm in width x 158cm = extra 790 square cms. with the width of a long 26cm waist board being about 33 cm at the tip and tail, that means your 158 has the surface area of a board about 25cm longer or a 183 x 26cm board, sweet ride for tight trees in good snow!
Let us know what size foot you have and if it still gets on edge reasonably well on packed exit trails, etc. Any skinning trouble or do you have monster wide skins?
Post subject: Re: Oh yes it happened!! October 7th split day.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:14 am
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I have size 11 foot. No skin problems. These extra wide boards are a little irritating on long hard conditions skin trips. Also not so great on wind slab for riding. You gotta have a pow / corn board and then something for mixed conds. On the subject of float. Check out the 135 cm long board I rode last winter. It went better than my friends Mololo on flat slopes. Instant direction changes. I think lots of tail rocker is the key. The extra width keeps your toes and heels out of the pow for much less drag. Also the wider platform is way easier to stand on when you're trying to get going. I actually built the mold and had that board vacuum pressing in a day. I used scrap plywood and yellow glue then glassed it the next day. I can't believe it lasted into this season!
Post subject: Re: Oh yes it happened!! October 7th split day.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:53 pm
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:32 pm Posts: 306
That is a very cool board (even though I am a total big board devotee). I bet the bc riders in Hokkaido would love that one! I have had so much fun riding deeply rockered boards with a constant curve front to back as well. (I just stiffen them up a lot, so they don't bend out too far)
I've been imagining up a board around 35-39cm wide, but as a three piece with 8cm sections on the outside to keep the weight of snow stuck on em down. I'm thinking of it as a 170 with no tail curve for really deep dry days in the Wasatch when stability is not so good on the steeps. Good to hear of someone who has broken the width barrier and that 31cm is still manageable and makes even seriously short boards lots of fun. I'm tempted to make one at 31 now just because it is more simple. thanks for posting your results!
I saw a quick clip of video from one of the lib tech crew riding a board with an outline of a 10 year old's surfboard, maybe a 5'0" and it must have been 45-50cm wide, seemed to work great on the day they were filming. tough to envision as a split, maybe in four pieces. like a regular split with two elliptical outside pieces?
Post subject: Re: Oh yes it happened!! October 7th split day.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:58 pm
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:04 am Posts: 143
Yea Quad split !! I tried it. That short board was 38 cm originally and I trimmed to 30.5. Then I could add the trimmed pieces back on for testing. Results? 30.5 waist is plenty. I didn't understand your 3 piece idea idea. More info?
I presume these were made to make long traverses on hard snow in europe more bearable than hard snow traverses would be on a regular width split halves.
Although maybe on the deep days that call for an extra wide board, you don't really need narrower split halves (or thirds in this case) or skins that cover the whole width of your split halves.
HP, This is the little elliptical Lib Tech board I saw in a clip awhile back, I would guess your 158 x 31 outfloats it by a mile, it looks like more of a missile for sustained high speeds and control, not really focused on exiting turns with as much speed as possible. Cool to see someone pick up the surfboard style snowboards made by Bill Stewart? ages ago.
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