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 Post subject: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:51 pm 
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I realize the 14-15 Sparks have already made the show circuit with no changes to the lean adjuster, but I'd sure like something with a little less fiddle factor.
Set it once, turn once to tour, turn once to ride. I 'm begging, is it too much to ask? :bow:

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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:35 pm 
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I'm not so sure if they will be unchanged for next year. But a better forward lean would sure be nice. Maybe a nice summer project?

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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:29 am 
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Karakoram's solution is great:

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Would love to see a similar solution on Sparks.


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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:58 pm 
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FloImSchnee wrote:
Karakoram's solution is great:
Would love to see a similar solution on Sparks.


I agree, I'd love to see Spark offer something simple like that....

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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:52 pm 
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What happened to "The Cube" idea a few years back? Something like this. . .
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Off center mounted rectangle which give easy adjustment to four different highback angles.


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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:10 am 
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The only problem with the cube was the adjustment is quite "coarse". I'd take course over fiddling around with my adjusters in 40mph winds with spindrift blinding me though.....

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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:54 am 
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Bring back the cube!!!!! Maybe add a fifth side for those wanting finer increments?
After using the cube the current system is just too fiddly for impatient curmudgeons like me. It's my only gripe about my Burners :twocents:


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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:39 am 
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Has anyone heard of any forthcoming changes or options from Spark on the lean adjuster, or come up with an alternate option?

This and the heel lock-down were the two things I felt I had to compromise on in going with new AfterBurners last year. With the add-on heal lock-down out now I'm still hoping to regain some touring/ climbing stride length. As others mentioned the existing adjust has a frustrating fiddle factor. I've had the lever ice up and the adjuster block freeze in place in variable conditions and have been unable to or given up on changing it at switch-overs. The Karakoram solution seems ideal.

I have an original pair of Ignition 1's sitting around so might try the old highback with the cube system on the new binders in the interim.


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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:55 am 
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Heel lock down psfff... Free your heel and free your mind dude! and learn to drop that knee.. Oh yea and the cube fn rocks! Bring back the cube Sparky!

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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:45 pm 
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Back in 12/13, Karakoram were debuting the carbon Prime at SIA and they were experimenting with a cable highjack retention system. They had no heel cup and their swivel thingy rotated up to tension a cable for fwd lean. It might have been rear-entry (a la Flow and some other tinkerers on the forum). They eventually went back to heel cups and downward swivel thingys for fwd lean.


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 Post subject: Re: Lean adjuster needs an overhaul
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:34 pm 
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All it took was a TG morning skimo event and I'd had it with the Spark lean adjuster.
So this morning I set about building up a prototype replacement - it aint fancy, but thats sort of the point.

Basically its a piece of bent aluminum stock, nylon sleeve, couple springs, washers, 6mmx100 hex bolts,
a couple voile slider plate 6mm t-nuts (e.g. these are notched identically to the spark high-back cutout) and generous lock-tite.

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