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look at the picturs - and you need no translation.....
the guy make self the mistakes , he had no brain to youse lightcomponts
A. Dont youse the same screwn 2 times(look at the head of the srewn) B. the power of drilling in the screw / not to much energie - youse lookglue C. the touringbracked need a gasket under it ..... damping is the secret..... D. all corner must rounded , no bracke points - a light componts need a polish surface.
ever guy need light components - but no guy think about the right yousing....
probably you're right, but spark doesn't write it on bracket instructions and they doesn't supply new screws with the brackets I'll try to apply these rules on the next brackets I hope to receive in warranty we'll see if the problem is this or another!
look at the picturs - and you need no translation.....the guy make self the mistakes , he had no brain to youse lightcomponts A. Dont youse the same screwn 2 times(look at the head of the srewn) B. the power of drilling in the screw / not to much energie - youse lookglue C. the touringbracked need a gasket under it ..... damping is the secret..... D. all corner must rounded , no bracke points - a light componts need a polish surface. ever guy need light components - but no guy think about the right yousing.... Burton -Wildschnee
looks like your saying, don't use power tools to torque the screws, use new screws and use the gasket/riser under the bracket.
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Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 7:12 am Posts: 18 Location: Italy
burton wrote:
A. Dont youse the same screwn 2 times(look at the head of the srewn)
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C. the touringbracked need a gasket under it ..... damping is the secret.....
Marcus, the LT Pin System does not require Touring gaskets underneath and no new screws were given with them. Enrysno just mounted them following the instructions given with the LT Pin.
Clearly a little more R&D needs to be done. One thing Sparks needs to do is supply screws that will fit the brackets well, as the heads on the ones in the photos are not flush. If the heads are too big in diameter and actually butt up against the upright part of the bracket, there will be stress at the joint angle. Not good. Also, if the screws are over-tightened, it could cause problems. but what is considered over-tightening? There's really not a lot of material at the boundary of the upright and the base, but it's hard for me to imagine it breaking without some wicked circumstances. Some structural overkill does need to be factored into the equation of weight savings.
This is the first LT that i have seen reported to have broken.
As for supplying the screws, maybe only for a factory split, as DYI may have different hardware altogether. It could be user error (no shim + over tightening), could just be a bad bracket. In the bike business we called this a JRA story. JRA = Just Riding Along; and it broke.
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Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 7:12 am Posts: 18 Location: Italy
pietro wrote:
burton wrote:
A. Dont youse the same screwn 2 times(look at the head of the srewn)
......
C. the touringbracked need a gasket under it ..... damping is the secret.....
Marcus, the LT Pin System does not require Touring gaskets underneath and no new screws were given with them. Enrysno just mounted them following the instructions given with the LT Pin.
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