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 Post subject: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:55 am 
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Did I miss a thread on these guys? Some interesting ideas there. Can't say I have heard of them and they are based out of Evergreen.

http://www.prowder.com/shop/


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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:51 am 
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Yeah I was going to ask that the other day too Killclimbz! :shock:

I've ordered a set of their saddles to use on my solid. They don't ship til end of Jan though.

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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:03 pm 
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Hmmm, very interesting! I would love to test some of their gear out, and I always love to support the local guys too.

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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:06 pm 
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I put an order in for the saddle. I have Afterburners. A little concerned that the metal could break the plastic stopper tabs for the Afterburners. Then again if it works, looks lighter and you have more stance options. Came to about $50 with shipping. I could of driven up there to pick them up when available, but it would be about $10 in gas for me anyway, so screw it.

I'll report back once I get my paws on 'em.


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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:11 pm 
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Looks cool. May have to try it. I like the hooks, like a combo of the best things of all the systems. The tip clips look cool. And i dig the saddle puck setup although its hard to tell exactly how it works. Only thing i see that looks like it could use improvement is that the parts are bent, and the clips and hooks seem to stick up tall. I understand this is for lateral stiffness, but just seem like more things to catch, or more things to scape your base across if you cross tips, flail, etc

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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:15 pm 
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I really like their HUGE 'larger images.'
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i dig the saddle puck setup although its hard to tell exactly how it works.

It looks like there are three metal pieces for each puck: a triangle, a square 'U', and the bent metal 'slider' top.
The pictures have it setup for a 4x4 or 2x4 hole pattern. The inboard side of the triangle screws into your board holes and slide fore and aft to adjust stance width (and binding angle). The 'slider' rotates in the [red] tracks to align with the toe and heel triangles. (see picture)
For a split setup, I think you rotate the triangle 180º [green triangle], and use the other tracks [blue] to align the slider. [Black circles screw into board holes and grey ones do not.]
The U attaches outboard each slider and adjust to compensate for 4x4 vs split hole patterns -and- more toe-/heelside binding preference.
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Looks like they were designed for Spark Burners/Blaze (where the puck stop is closer to the board) and not Voile Slider Plates (where the stop hangs off the top). IDK about Fuze/Ignition. You still fiddle with pins. You still need a touring bracket.


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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:27 pm 
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It says they work with Voile Bindings. Not sure about the slider plates but I would imagine it works with those too.


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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:10 pm 
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Yeah really interesting, affordable to, imagine that. I'm not convinced that they will work better than the Voile interface. I'd be willing to check this system out for the price their offering it for, reasonable split service to. :thumpsup:


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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:26 pm 
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The description of the saddles says that they will work on solid boards too. Kinda cool if you have multiple decks splits/solids. I could sell the bindings on my solids, sell my blazes and buy some afterburners and a few saddles. Just have one pair of bindings that can be slapped on any deck quickly.


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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:44 pm 
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Metal on metal interface?! Stance width adjustability is based on hole spacing so micro adjustments are out the window. Solid and split compatible even though the side to side hole spacing isn't standard. Front and rear binding slop would occur in the slider. That would be an easy mod to fix it though. the board clamps also metal on metal which will wear quickly and the sliding board overlaps (if they aren't frozen due to icing) would lose that snap shown on the video similar to a voile or Karakorum tip and tail clip after a little use. Leading to to tip and tail clips here are passive due to their metal composition. You again don't get that snap to help keep these locked down. Without having these in hand this is all just simple speculation. The pics and video really don't do this product any justice. Send me pics George! I'd like to look at these a little closer.

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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
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I got a 1BS that I am not using right now (maybe if /when I get a new solid) but this is very interesting, indeed! - e.g. if I decide to DIY split an old solid, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Prowder?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:50 am 
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I think you can make micro adjustments in stance. There is a track in the triangle which allows you to move it fore and aft ≈ 1". I don't think you can have aggressive (35º+) binding angles.
Non-standardized side to side hole spacing is irrelevant b/c the U attaches to the slider in a track, allowing for adjustment. I just don't understand why they have four threaded holes for each U.
rughty, you're so right about metal on metal. It needs gaskets for each of the tracks to prevent slipping: between the triangle & board, the slider & triangle, and the U & slider. And why are there no washers. . . anywhere?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:04 am 
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I think maximum angle range is +/- 25 degrees if I remember correctly!

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