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 Post subject: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:53 pm 
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I am currently waiting for karakoram to send some replacement climbing wires, as mine are not functional (defect). I'm getting antsy though, and wanting to go out anyways. Can anyone offer their experience climbing without the climbing wires? Not ideal of course, but bearable??


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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:26 pm 
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lean forward too far, unweight heel, start sliding backwards


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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:48 pm 
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Climbing wires are not a necessity. Either keep a mellow skin track, or balance on the pivot. Either way, I've gotten to the point where I rarely use them.


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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:13 pm 
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I use'm and like'm, up icey spring skin tracks with crampons they come in handy.


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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:35 am 
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climbing with out them sucks, your legs will be killing you from leanign so far on your toes

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:41 pm 
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I think its like surfing. People used to surf before tthe invention called the "Fin" . you can do without a fin but it sure makes turning easier


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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:46 pm 
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As long as you have the bracket you should be fine otherwise I would fear causing damage to the Bracket

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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:15 pm 
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"No Problemo Man" because who needs the tools when your wearing the toolbag? Right! All you need is 1 beacon 2 Probe 3 voile strap and voila "Heel lifters
(Edit, this fix may or may not be compatable with the K set up, make sure your beacon is fully charged)

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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:37 pm 
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I'm assuming that did not wreck your beacon man (or probe), but I wouldn't do that with mine! To each his own though....

Which...btw....I did a 4K' tour once without them, and tbh, I survived. Like Tex say's they may not be required...but they sure do help a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
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^^^RIGHT, good point Jaybay :thumpsup: Probably better to strap your Billfold and Weed jar under those binders

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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:43 pm 
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I use the wires only on the steepest stuff. I like stretching my calves and achilles by weighting my heels. I don't think weighting your toes when climbing without wires is an efficient technique for the most part, the exception being one or two steps over a roller steeper than the slope your climbing. I feel more control traversing with the wires down and I positively don't like walking like a hooker on rolling terrain.

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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
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You can go old skool, and use a short piece of PVC tubing, with two holes drilled in it, and attach it to you binding via a short length of shock cord. Voila, custom sized heel riser you can stow in a pocket when not needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Splitting without the climbing wires?
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Voile actually used to sell this!!

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