Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 2:39 pm Posts: 477 Location: Where the kids go to retire
Curious what you guys (especially you Sierra guys, but you Cascaders and others feel free to chime in) are using for your go-to winter bag? I'm thinking I'm going to need a new one as my winter synth bag is HUGE, would have to go up a pack size
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:57 pm Posts: 4985 Location: California
I'm all about down for its lightweight and packability. If I lived in the PNW or somewhere really damp I might look at an ultralight synthetic bag.
As for brands. If money is no object or you see the bag as an investment, Western Mountaineering probably can't be beat. If you're looking for something less expensive, I'd look at the usual suspects like Mountain Hardwear, The North Face, Marmot, etc.
I'm a Mountain Hardwear grassroot athlete so that's what I use. For the Sierra's I use the Phantom 15 degree. You'll need the Long which is only 2oz more than the Reg at 2 lbs 1oz. Pretty damn light and packable. To make the bag warmer you can sleep with your down jacket in the bag too which will make it go down a few more degrees. I'm getting softer in my old age so I got a zero degree Phantom for this year (2 lbs 14oz).
Pretty much the same as BCR, I use a MH 15 degree down bag for most winter Sierra stuff, with the exception of Shasta where I carry a MH 0 degree down bag. A 15 degree bag plus some synthetic pants and an ultralight down jacket should be good to at least 0 and provides you a multitude of options for around camp and on daytrips out of basecamp. If you will be using a double wall tent you should be warm to much lower temps. with this setup.
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:50 am Posts: 327 Location: hippy pow turns
budget option for the keen slacker.
I've rocked an mec raven for a few years now. combind it with an Emporor Pinguin and you've got every thing from fast and light summer trips to stashing out in a tree well at -20c covered.
though if you've got the money for a Western Mountaineering bag, go that way. those bags are very good.
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:42 am Posts: 2373 Location: California
I've got a 10 year old 20 degree down NF bag that keeps me warm in the Sierra. I run hot so I've never had an issue staying warm, even while not in a tent. As bcrider says, I am getting a little more finicky in my old age so I'm seriously considering a 0 degree bag as soon as the right deal comes along.
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:45 am Posts: 748 Location: Bozeman, MT
Really cold: Marmot Couloir (goose down) Kind of cold: Backpacking Light UL 180 Quilt and a Backpacking Light UL 60 Quilt as well as my puffy coat and pants (all synthetic)
Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:10 pm Posts: 1241 Location: South SL,UT
Bump.... Any thrashers out there found a good bag to accommodate the mummy bag challenged? I rarely, if ever get more than a couple hours sleep in a mummy bag. I've looked at the Big Agnes stuff and it looks perfect. Unfortunately, the reviews by people in actual winter conditions all point to sketched out performance.
Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 2:39 pm Posts: 477 Location: Where the kids go to retire
Have you tried any of the down quilt setups? They seem to be more the realm of the UL weirdos, but there's probably a quilt setup that would work better for you than the mummy setups. Maybe one of the Montball stretchy mummy bags?
Bump.... Any thrashers out there found a good bag to accommodate the mummy bag challenged? I rarely, if ever get more than a couple hours sleep in a mummy bag. I've looked at the Big Agnes stuff and it looks perfect. Unfortunately, the reviews by people in actual winter conditions all point to sketched out performance.
I am/will be using a montbell super stretch 15 degree synthetic. I wish it was a bit warmer, as i have to layer some clothing to sleep comfy on cold nights. But as far as having it "stretchy" nothing beats it! I can actually change all of my clothing while still in my sleeping bag.
Some of the bags in the Western Mountaineering lineup offer a wider but through the shoulders and footbox for those that like a little more room to move.
BTW, two notes regarding weight: a rescue bivy (esp. inside the bag) might not be very comfy or durable (doesn't breathe, rustles, tears) but it lets you stay safe even with skimpy gear, and sure beats staying up doing situps. Secondly, a 5lb 0 deg bag is meaningless on a 3 season mat =P
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