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 Post subject: Avalung Delimma
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:11 am 
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I want to get an Avalung this year, but I can't decide what model. I have several different BC packs (1800 - 3500) and use them all throughout the winter so I'm not sure that I want to be tied down to a certain pack because it has an Avalung. But at the same time it seems that people aren't always happy with the sling version. What do you guys think pack or sling?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:31 am 
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The problem I found with the sling style is that I was always taking if off and putting it back on when changing layers.

Before the packs were available, I tried strapping the sling version to the left shoulder strap of my existing pack. Zip ties and small straps worked well. The problem was that it made it hard to reach the loop to tighten the shoulder strap.

Now I just leave it in the pack on the way up and only put in on when heading down.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:36 am 
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I'd go with the pack over the sling and personally I like the Covert design over the Anarchist.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:39 am 
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2 questions:

1) Are you worried that the pack might be ripped off in a big slide?
2) Are you worried about the tube in the shoulder strap? (I tend to be pretty rough on my gear?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:27 am 
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I think you are safe from a design standpoint with the BD pack interface and it possibly getting ripped off. I mean, if the avalanche is that violent that your pack gets ripped off, that probably means your arms got ripped off, your legs are mangled, and neck is broken.

I went with the sling model myself. The BD packs just do not cater enough to snowboarding for my tastes. If you change layers often that could be a pain I suppose. The one time I had to change layers (remove basically) during a day I just stashed it with my coat on the pack. We weren't skinning in avy terrain. I then put it back on with my jacket before our drop. Generally in Colorado, I find that I am not changing what I am wearing much. It's too frickin' cold. I might throw a down jacket over what I am wearing while standing around, and wearing the avalung under that is no problem.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:21 pm 
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When the integrated packs came out I heard rumors of BD letting other pack manufactorers integrate the Avalung. Any knew news about that??


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I have the avalung anarchist and I must say that while in general it's pretty nice, carrying a snowboard on it sucks monkey balls.

Maybe the covert addresses it.


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nothingmuch wrote:
carrying a snowboard on it sucks monkey balls.


Quote of the summer! :lol:

Nah, the Covert sucks just as bad. Sadly Black Diamond doesn't give a shit about snowboarders. Luckily though, as splitboarders, the need to carry your board is generally pretty small.


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I have used both and for similar reasons I to thought the sling version was inconvienent while shedding and adding layers while the anarchist has become my favorite pack . I don't know about sucking monkey balls but possibly buffalo shlong

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Maybe I need to try an avylung pack, but I really don't have much of a problem with the sling. I would rather deal with that then have a shitty board carry. I frequently need to carry my board when traveling on the divide for a fair amount of distance.
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Just sayin'...


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Monkey balls...buffalo shlong. You guys are killin' me. :lol:

Killclimbz,

Not going to second guess you at all but that pic is not a good example of needing to carry your board. Unless its just a real short section of the climb it looks totally skinable.

This is more like it.
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Just sayin'. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:35 am 
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Are the BD packs lacking at carrying an assembled split, split split or both?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:59 am 
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I have the covert (small one, right?) and I have not carried my split in board mode, but I think it will work better in split mode on the two sides.

Food for though, I saw a guy in the wasatch last season with a sling-style avalung shoe-horned into his non-BD pack. Some significant modification of the avalung was necessary, so this may not be a particularly good idea.

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Paul


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