'What you’re left with is the floatation of the plates, with the security of your crampons if you run into a bit of ice or hard snow. The plate is thin enough that if you only need the crampons without the plates, they’ll still be tight enough without the plates. A BGT Ascent plate and an aluminum crampon is about the same weight as a pair of Verts without straps, and obviously a whole lot lighter than a pair of Verts and crampons (and more packable, too). Add some webbing and a BGT plate would make a decent snow fluke as well, not to mention a great platform for cooking.'
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:29 pm Posts: 232 Location: Tacoma,WA
I've got some verts, and you'd be surprised how well they work on crust and Ice. The scooping action really digs in. I've also thought about rigging some front points to the verts.
These look cool, and I like that they work with a crampon, but I really like the scooping action of the verts in the front. I don't see how they can be lighter and more packable than verts with puck adapters, and crampons, if you still have two plates and crampons. The way verts are formed, they stack on top of each other nicely
I've got some verts, and you'd be surprised how well they work on crust and Ice. The scooping action really digs in. I've also thought about rigging some front points to the verts.
These look cool, and I like that they work with a crampon, but I really like the scooping action of the verts in the front. I don't see how they can be lighter and more packable than verts with puck adapters, and crampons, if you still have two plates and crampons. The way verts are formed, they stack on top of each other nicely
I've got a pair of Verts too. The Ascent Plates are just 2 flat pieces of aluminum. If you are already carrying crampons these weight very little in addition. Verts stack on one another but they are several inches thick when you do this, these things would maybe be a half inch thick together. More versatility.
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:33 pm Posts: 37 Location: San Diego
I was thinking about this recently. 3/4 up a 45 degree, 1300 ft couloir you don't know how badly I wished for verts. Post hole central, wearing my crampons from the bottom cause the top out looked technical. I wished for verts until the last 1/4th that ended up being ice and 50 degrees. Transitioning up there from verts to crampons woulda been outside my comfort zone. So I thought i actually woulda ended up being screwed wearing verts. In that situation, common in the Sierras, these Ascent Pates would seem a better option. Anyone actually tried these though and can tell me how they float? I havent tried either but judging by looks, verts would seem to float way better.
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:05 am Posts: 1180 Location: Colorado
I like the looks of these… Could be very useful for late winter, early spring in Colorado where one needs crampons, but may find very deep pow as well...
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