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Karakoram clips or voile hooks?
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 Post subject: Are the K-clips worth $50?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:05 pm 
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Looking at purchaseing a pair of K-clips for my freebird, and I have a few questions.

How much (if at all) do they affect transition time?

How much do they improve you board's prformance?

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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:55 pm 
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There is a multi-page thread with almost the exact same title on here. Perhaps read through that first.

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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:53 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:04 pm 
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wasatchfreeride84093 wrote:
Looking at purchaseing a pair of K-clips for my freebird, and I have a few questions.

How much (if at all) do they affect transition time?

How much do they improve you board's prformance?


transition time, not so much

If your hooks are tight, you probably wont notice much, if your hooks are loose, then you'll see improvement.

If starting from scratch and $50 isn't breaking the bank, then go for it, they will outlast and out perform hooks.

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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:37 pm 
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If starting from scratch and $50 isn't breaking the bank, then go for it, they will outlast and out perform hooks.


This is about as dead of horse as possible, but Stein no offense, maybe you could make a case for K-clips using theory. Justify this quote for me, please. How do you make such a statement.


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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:29 am 
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The K-clips give a much more secure fit to the board IMHO. On an old board of mine, the voile hooks would rub against each other while riding since there was nothing to stop them from moving vertically. The K-clips reduce movement in all directions giving a much more solid feel to the board.

I think they are worth the extra $50 if you are looking for a more solid fit, but my board came with them.


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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:16 am 
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If starting from scratch and $50 isn't breaking the bank, then go for it, they will outlast and out perform hooks.


This is about as dead of horse as possible, but Stein no offense, maybe you could make a case for K-clips using theory. Justify this quote for me, please. How do you make such a statement.


Please explain to me with some more detail what has you perplexed and maybe I could clarify for you.

From my own experience using both systems, I have found the K clips perform the best, possibly you could share your experience.

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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
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The outlast part. Both systems are going get more play the older they get but the K-clips have only been around for what 3 years so to make a statement that their going to outlast the chinese hooks? I don't know how you make such a statement.

My experience is limited with the k-clips. I fooled around with about 4 boards with the k-clips on and 3 out of the 4 boards I got just as much if not more play then the chines hooks I was doing a side by side comparison with. I'll admit the 4th one was pretty snug. So much so that it U-ed out the board. For me I like the option to twist my hooks so nothing is sticking out picking up extra snow as I follow a skinny track, I can stomp my edge on an icy slope or not have to worry about banging it up on a rock or something. I also don't care for the flappety flap of the clips. I'm looking for something clean, simple and proven personally. I'm open for whatever, the k-clips can definitely reduce the gap in a board but I'm not too worried about a gap more worried about play between the boards.


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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
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I'm still not sure what you are getting at so please explain some more, which one do you think gets play faster than the other and why?

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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
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The outlast part. Both systems are going get more play the older they get but the K-clips have only been around for what 3 years so to make a statement that their going to outlast the chinese hooks? I don't know how you make such a statement.


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Are you messing with me stein? :lol: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by outlast, what were you referring to.


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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
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If one stays tight longer than the other, it outlasts, performance wise

Which one breaks first? probably my bones

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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
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I was looking about P clips and i found your site. This post explains about K clips which has many useful features. I liked the features of K clips. Can you share something about P clips so that i gathered information about them. I will visit your site again. Thanks for sharing it.
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 Post subject: Re: Are the K-clips worth $50?
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p clips look like they will do the trick


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