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 Post subject: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:37 pm 
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After receiving my blaho split today,it took me about three seconds to figure out where the torsional flex of the board in ride mode is affected by the fact that the board is split. The middle,near the toe mounts for the ascent.solution: put a slider pin through the two medial pin holes,and voila, flex almost completely gone. I wont ride the split like that,as i fear that would put alot of stress on just these two holes,but i do plan to get a double-length slider pin made, to drive through all four holes,distributing pressure evenly,and increasing stiffness even more. Any thoughts on this? Ever been done before? -Arild

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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:51 pm 
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I can't say I feel much torsional flex while riding, not sure the added wieght would be worth it. A picture would help me understand exactly what you talking about though.


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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:15 pm 
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The toe mounts for ascending run parallel in ride mode,right? The slider pins for the binding plates go through them,which is where i want to double the length of a slider pin,to put through all the holes in the toe mount,from toe edge to heel edge,or vice versa. It would weigh something like fifty grams,so that staggering amount of weight probably wont slow or wear you down. Sorry,cant illustrate,on the cellphone until i get a landline.

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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:04 pm 
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To be honest Arild, split boards are fairly stiff torsionally in my experience. I think it's mostly due to the rock solid nature of the slider plates. I would ride it first and see if you think it's an issue. I really don't notice any performance difference from the solid boards to the splits. The only thing about the splitboard is that it does weigh more.


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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:35 pm 
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I'll listen to the voices of reason,Gary and Ecobrad, but just this once. Forgot to add the number in the NS thread. She is #120,and currently in split mode. I love her.. ;-) silo pack and poles maybe dropping in the mail tomorrow. There is a frighteningly high risk of me gearing up and touring the wooden floor hallway with crampons. i'll let you all know,maybe post a cellphone tr. Heehee.

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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:10 pm 
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Ecobrad wrote:
I can't say I feel much torsional flex while riding, not sure the added wieght would be worth it. A picture would help me understand exactly what you talking about though.



I've never used it, but I've seen this very thing done. The guy I rode with that had it swears by it, though I may not be a good enough rider to know the difference...my board works pretty good as it. :-)

The pin could be manufactured very easily at a machine shop no doubt.

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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
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I'm with Killklimz here in that if you have your pucks set up correctly there is no comprmise in rigidity from having the board split. The combination of hinges and the binding baseplates make it a very stable platform. Yeah, when you look at the board before you ride it, it may seem a little unbelievable but you have to have faith in what we say here: it's totally stiff, dude!

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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:13 am 
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It's been done but I couldn't find the pics in search. Probably in my hard-drive somewhere. I wanna say burton or jogi did it but I can't remember. With todays production splits and spark bindings I don't think you need it but only one way to find out...try it! :)

Congrats on all the new gear too. :bananas:


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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:31 am 
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bcrider wrote:
It's been done... I wanna say burton or jogi did it but I can't remember....

good memory Chris, it was Jogi, and the thread is here:
Jogi's Mod
If you read his comments, he figures the overlapping pucks are superior.


as an aside, i gotta say i'm diggin' those new emoticons, Chris...esp the guy wit de goatee and spec's
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 Post subject: Re: Idea on increasing stiffness in ride mode-voile system
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:49 pm 
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She is #120,and currently in split mode


Be sure and tell us in the TR when she goes back into board mode. :roll: :wink: :bananas:


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