and if you didnt buy a new board (another $400), you no longer have a solid. on the other hand, you can buy a used factory split in good condition for around $500.
like i said, if you dont have a table saw, go for it, but is it really economically worth $110 for someone to split a board?
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Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:41 pm Posts: 1603 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Assuming you've already decided to split a board, then the decision comes down to whether or not it's worth it to you to spend $110 to have someone else do the job. Factor in the amount of time it would take you, and what that time is worth to you. Also consider that the people doing it presumably have a lot of experience with the job, and peace of mind knowing it's going to come out right. On the other hand, there's a lot to be said for doing something yourself.
Personally I've gone the split kit route myself once, and it was a great learning experience, but I'm considering going this route next time for the convenience.
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:43 pm Posts: 441 Location: Western Washington
I'll split your board using my table saw jig for $25. Adding taper will be more, of course, 'cause you are talking three cuts instead of one, and I hate the math!! Of course, then you have the lack of inserts to deal with, and the risk of ripping out the ski screws if you overstress the bindings...... I think I will buy a factory built board next, even though I've done the insert the board thing myself. Just have to find the perfect shape.
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Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:30 am Posts: 614 Location: Mendham, NJ
Didnt we see this before?
I agree, buy a used factory split.
If you can save up the $400 or whatever, cut back on beer and weed and save the other $100 or so to buy used...........
Wow- great input I guess. I'm not retarded ...but thought this might be useful for someone who doesn't own tools, lives in an apartment, and has an old deck to cut up to start out. As far as spending $350+ on the split components- that's what ebay/ski swaps are for. Frankly I haven't seen a great deal on any factory split boards. If anyone has found a great deal on a prior (168 or so) I'd appreciate it!
I don't think you can include the crampons in that calculation, because they aren't included in any factory split options...
Is that $110 just for the cut, or is the other hardware (touring brackets, tip clips, etc) mounted as well? I do live in an apartment and I have crappy tool access. Current pricing on Voile's site for the kit/skins is $150/$150. So it's really like $410 + board + shipping for a custom split. That doesn't seem too crazy if it comes out perfect and I don't have to drill any extra holes or glue anything. Still, I was able to find a used Freeride for under $500 earlier in the season...
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:41 pm Posts: 1603 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I'll split your board using my table saw jig for $25.
Making the cut is just one small part of the process. In my experience the rest of the process takes way longer. I'm thinking of sending my already-cut board to them to finish! Again, assuming you can afford it, it comes down to whether it's worth it to you to have someone else with experience and the right tools do it for you, basically guaranteeing a good result, vs. the time you put into it, what you learn in the process, the possibility of messing up, etc. I like the fact that they use inserts for everything, and know how to fill the resultant holes in the base. More info here:
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:43 pm Posts: 441 Location: Western Washington
Yeah, but you need to know EXACTLY where you want your bindings before you insert the board, and you get no second chances at fine tuning. Ideally, you ride the board solid extensively then when you are dialed in, split it and insert the bindings. Repairs to the base are easy enough, using base repair material to cut insert sized "dots" out of. Talked to a guy up here who was going to split one for a customer, and he was going to put in a short underfoot section of edge on the insides of each half. I think any experienced ski tech could do all the operation for you, including anything reasonably custom you wanted done. $110 is probably a fair price for all of the above, considering the labor intensive nature of the project. Oh, just looked at the website again, I don't think inserting the board is included in that price. Someone may wish to email them and find out. Inserting my board was more labor intensive than any other step.
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well this guy was recommended to me by a board company out of Jackson Hole. He is an engineer and does a great job I'm told- exact to the mm. Good communication and I'd trust him over a stoner at the local shop. Just an idea to people again w/out power tools or the balls to cut a deck themselves or the free time. I understand the ease to buy used, but when you're talking $500 for a used deck that you don't know the history of....kinda skethy in my mind. I'd rather use a deck I've rode before and feel comfortable on. Again- most used factory splits I've seen are upward of $750 and aesthetically look like shite.
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:11 am Posts: 6 Location: Ft Collins
Anyone know of anyone close to Ft Collins who has put on hardware for a board. I have split a Salomon Fastback 167, but am a little nervous about putting on the hardware. Who is the guy from Jackson Hole? What would he charge?
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