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 Post subject: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:42 pm 
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I have a 162 traditional camber twin (not true twin) splitboard I am thinking about turning a into a swallowtail. Any advise on tail shapes and total length to make it? It has no rocker or early rise. Is it even worth it? Oh yeah...the core is backwards so the touring would also be backwards. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:45 pm 
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Some tail shapes here

If the layup was done backwards so the touring bracket is at the rear, like an Atomic Poacher, you could try a shape like this and just use normal ski skins

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A recent one

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Ask Snurfer and the other swally guys!

another swallow thread
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There is a facebook swallowtail page as well

https://www.facebook.com/groups/251787820923/

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 Post subject: Re: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:52 pm 
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While it doesn't accomplish the full experience of a big swally, this converted 163 Arbor Formula is a peppy little stick for in between days. I copped the tail cut from the Wasatch Yoda (pictured below). Used a hole saw for the initial cut, cut through the edges with a fiberglass Dremel wheel and finished the cutout with a fine tooth jigsaw

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With HB plates
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 Post subject: Re: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:55 pm 
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I dug the arbor tail so I made mine similar to it. Thanks Snurfer! I have some decision making to do to either set this up for reverse touring or regular. I really don't want to drill anymore holes as this board already has a bunch of inserts and I think I'll have to put in 2 more due to the front binding not being set back enough. I'm thinking of making an adapter plate to use the current backwards touring bracket holes and heel lift holes to place the new bracket mounts wherever makes the most sense. Any ideas???

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 Post subject: Re: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:25 pm 
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Well done Rughty :headbang:

FWIW Monk did the split job on the Arbor and he used a few strategically placed and epoxied wood screws in place of inserts, so as not to punch too many holes through the board. This included both climbing wire holes and one each of the touring bracket holes (front/center). They appear to be snipped off dry wall screws, but I'm uncertain on the type of adhesive he used.

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 Post subject: Re: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:37 pm 
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Well, I decided to put in more inserts. I went the the local snowboard builder "Smokin Snowboards" to try to find some inserts and they were total duchebags. So I went over to Moment skis where I should've went to begin with. Thank you guys! These guys worked with Ben when he ran Sentury. Very cool guys over there. Got the needed inserts to finish the project. Going to drill and epoxy tomorrow. Looking forward to testing the current stance at the resort on the first pow day to determine if I need to setback any further. Lots to think about when the core is backwards. Stiff nose and soft tail flex pattern, side cut radius and reference stance to consider taking on this project.

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 Post subject: Re: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:23 pm 
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put the touring point as far forwards as possible now that the tail is lighter.
Makes kick turn much easier.
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 Post subject: Re: DIY traditional camber swallowtail split advise
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:18 pm 
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All done with all the drilling and epoxy work. We should have a contest for the most inserts used in a splitboard. Anyone out there with more than 43? :shock: :lol: Just in inserts alone I have 172 grams (6 oz or 0.38lbs) dedicated to inserts in my piece of swiss cheese.

Consider this my minutiae Snurfer

Thanks for all the info gentlemen! I'll add the finished mounted pics after everything dries

Edit...all done

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