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 Post subject: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:01 pm 
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So I've recently become bothered by excess snow/ice building up on my top sheet/pucks/bindings and weighing me down. I decided to try this:

http://www.bikebandit.com/dupont-teflon ... -lubricant

First day out for about 7 hours it seemed to work well, but I was in Utah champagne powder. Usually I have bigger problems when the snow is wet, or snow melts on my board and any snow that hits it freezes. I'll update as the experiment goes.

Anybody else have any tricks?


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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:04 pm 
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i was searching around the store the other day trying to find something that would work. settled on armor-all.

Didnt work. should have went with pam. i once went snow camping with some italian dressing and it got all over the place, it seemed to work to keep the snow off when it was all over my board.

i think food products are the way to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:07 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... fUaKXasdD4


I wonder how this would shed snow?

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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:04 am 
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This is one of my biggest annoyances while in tour and ride mode. Nothing like hauling around a few extra pounds of snow or trying to air out and make a nice grab when your board weighs twice as much!

I have tried numerous things but nothing seems to work long term here in the Cascades. The only thing I have had any type of success with is a spray silicone made by Wurth...but even that wears off after the first half day usually. It makes the bindings slip on and off VERY nice haha!

There has to be something out there that works, AND is organic/natural...I just have no idea what it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:09 am 
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cool to see that these coatings are becoming available, been waiting for Never wet for over a year.

http://www.ultraeverdrystore.com/products/

neverwet, everdry, somedayforsale


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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:51 am 
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Scooby2 wrote:
cool to see that these coatings are becoming available, been waiting for Never wet for over a year.

http://www.ultraeverdrystore.com/products/

neverwet, everdry, somedayforsale



This looks pretty awesome. I need some of this $tuff!

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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:24 am 
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Scooby2 wrote:
cool to see that these coatings are becoming available, been waiting for Never wet for over a year.

http://www.ultraeverdrystore.com/products/

neverwet, everdry, somedayforsale




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good to see that link , it's a little cheaper than the Ultra Ever Dry link I had seen(http://www.maxxsale.com/ultra_ever_dry.htm)

$150 could be well worth it if it works, 42sq ft would work out to about $25-$30 a board for the 1 quart size

Superhydrophic reviews.
I'd try to find superhydrophobic applications for consumer sale but got no response from these guys,
http://www.hyphotech.com/index.html
http://unitedprotec.com/?page_id=5
http://www.liqui-glide.com/
http://www.lotusleafcoatings.com/coatin ... -coatings/
http://tulcocorp.com/index.htm

I did find one, Hydrobead (http://hydro-bead.com/index.html) that I was able to purchase so here's my Hydrobead superhydrophobic review.
I bought a 6oz container with the recommended Prevail sprayer.
$15 plus $15 shipping. Took a couple weeks to get it.
I waited until I had a new splitboard and used the application method and coated my board but left a small area covered so as to see if there would be a difference between the coated area and the non coated area. It went on some what unevenly and left a ever so light clear white coating on the board.
The next day I poured some water on it from a low angle, no difference than that of a non coated board.
I've since put a half dozen days on it touring, a couple in prime conditions, just above freezing with fresh pow.
Hydobead is hopeless. Snow sticks just as much as a normal topsheet. There is no discernible difference between a coated area and non coated area.

I would like to see a splitboard manufacturer offer an option of a superhydrophobic coated topsheet( Ultra Ever Dry looks promising) which could be offered at a premium. Like Prior's Carbon option, a superhydrophobic topsheet could be offered for about $50 extra.

Neverwet, still have to wait.

Here's the previous topic
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13264

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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:31 pm 
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hopefully it is not so slick that your board slips off your pack!


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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:10 pm 
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Go Green. Use Flax-seed oil!!!!!!!

It works great, and doesn't contaminate the snow with petroleum based products.

Also, white boards reflect pretty well.

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Check out Chimera's option:.....

http://www.chimerasnowboards.com/nonsticktopsheet.html


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 Post subject: Re: Snow/Ice Build Up / Weight Problem
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:51 am 
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so we can experiment with super-hydrophobic coatings this season for $20 now

\http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Stops-Rust-18-oz-NeverWet-Multi-Purpose-Spray-Kit-274232/204216476?mid=sR34msgeM|dc_mtid_8903alh25183_pcrid_34878380377_pkw_%2Bneverwet_pmt_b#.UbCiP-cTxfA?&cm_mmc=SEM|G|STO|DSK|D24|Rustoleum

looks like anti-icing (at least from freezing rain or supercooled droplets is best at a certain size particle that may or may not be the size of the coating from neverwet. It'll be interesting to see if the snow flake or grain which cannot just bead up and run off the surface like a drop of water would, will also slide off without bonding to the surface of your split.

the reviews suggest that you'll have to treat your deck gently and probably not scrape it to keep the coating on for a while

more reading:

http://www.engr.ucr.edu/~jwu/papers/la9 ... -Icing.pdf


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