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 Post subject: why
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:24 pm 
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why are there only two choices for an average income guy who wants splitboard binders- spark and voile? and then it's $300 for an erector set unit. where's the love?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Start a company and build them. Then you'll know why they cost so much ; )

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:34 pm 
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samh wrote:
Start a company and build them. Then you'll know why they cost so much ; )



True that

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:32 am 
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Ride 4-5days away from a resort and they are paid for......and cancel your gym membership.


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 Post subject: Re: why
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:40 am 
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nothing to do with materials or design or lack of market competition. just how it is. got it.

@ rughty

that's awesome dude, i'm serious. definitely got me thinking how i could pull that off. in the meantime how much to build me a pair? i have a set Forces i can send you. lol.

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 Post subject: Re: why
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The love is people supporting the innovation and people supplying our tiny niche market with some really excellent tech. Buy it - support em. It's worth the coin. Or just hang in the terrain park & ride chairs.

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 Post subject: Re: why
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lewmt wrote:
The love is people supporting the innovation and people supplying our tiny niche market with some really excellent tech. Buy it - support em. It's worth the coin. Or just hang in the terrain park & ride chairs.


Your tiny niche? Would that be the upper elite of the snowboard community? I guess us sniveling old park riders should raise any questions that might offend the tech-gods.

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mjd - i think your initial post is what has people on edge.

i think there is plenty of love, and most are right, splitboarding is tiny compaired to the regular snowboard community. Thats why there arent that many options and its very hard to get into the market.

Sparks are deffinately worth the investment. A good pair of snowboard binders is at least $200 so for an extra hundo your getting split specific binders + a lot of LOVE


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 Post subject: Re: why
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:54 pm 
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mjd - i think your initial post is what has people on edge.


But that's what I was asking from the start- why aren't the companies that make the splitboards making the bindings also? Why aren't they investing in the sport that they're selling products to? (that's what I meant by "love") There doesn't seem to be any interest to expand the base and the result is your choice between two binders that look almost exactly alike and are the same price.

I'm a new to splitboarding so this is my initial viewpoint.

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 Post subject: Re: why
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two binders that look almost exactly alike and are the same price.


not even close to the same, do a little more research.

And as for splitboard manufacturers making bindings, the first split specific binding only came out a couple years ago (sparks), prior to that most were using the voile sliders. I think some time has to elapse before they get into that market. For now i think what we have is great and a fair price.

Also note that not many splitboard manufacturers (burton is the only one i can think of) make regular bindings. so for the initial start up, i dont think it would be worth it for them.


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 Post subject: Re: why
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Get slider tracks and you can choose any biding you want! :lol:
mjd wrote:
why aren't the companies that make the splitboards making the bindings also?
Venture has something like 4 employees, so I don't think they have time.

Big companies like Burton don't give a shit because its too small of a market to dump R&D into to make any $ for them to care. Its not cheap to make new bindings, especially reinvent the wheel. A good example is Karakorum, which charges more then that for their system, which shows you how much it costs to produce. I really don't think there is a huge markup from production.

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Your tiny niche? Would that be the upper elite of the snowboard community?
Backcountry sucks I don't see why people do it and spend so much money on it, park riding is where its at, so much cheeper too, Park Laps > Pow Laps. :lol:

I am ok with the love we get now. Keeps jokers outta my skin track. :twocents:


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 Post subject: Re: why
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summersgone wrote:
...park riding is where its at, so much cheeper too, Park Laps > Pow Laps...


Totally. Anyone want to buy my entire b.c. setup? I'm going to hit some rails.

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