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 Post subject: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:48 pm 
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I'm looking at getting a hard boot(dynafit??) set up next year.

Interested in Barrows boot mods,and Vapor's titanium plate.

Karakoram and now Spark(Edison) have bindings that are no longer using pucks.

Am I a blind soft booter who has not seen a similar fixed plate option?
Can you tell me if someone has one.
Would it be beneficial, and if so, why isn't there one yet?

Got some more questions, but I'll start with this.

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:37 pm 
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whistlermaverick wrote:
why isn't there one yet?


because they would sell only three models... you, barrows and vapor!

haha just kidding folks.

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:11 pm 
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Id be another on the list.
Have thought about making a Spark style base for HB but like CB as pointed out prob only sell 10 sets.

My :twocents:

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:45 pm 
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christoph benells wrote:
whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models... you, barrows and vapor!

haha just kidding folks.

BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking... :scratch: How many HB'ers are on the forum? A partial list...

Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Snurfer wrote:
christoph benells wrote:
whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models... you, barrows and vapor!

haha just kidding folks.

BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking... :scratch: How many HB'ers are on the forum? A partial list...

Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer


StaggerLee
mej
singlewhitecaveman

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:47 pm 
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A little of topic but I hope you dont mind.

I have never tried a hard boot set up.
Is it that beneficial? I know it is lighter but anything else?
If I get the chance I will try some on.

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Alright then

I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:10 pm 
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firstlight wrote:
Alright then

I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers


the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:10 pm 
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wasatch surf wrote:
Snurfer wrote:
christoph benells wrote:
whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models... you, barrows and vapor!

haha just kidding folks.

BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking... :scratch: How many HB'ers are on the forum? A partial list...

Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer


StaggerLee
mej
singlewhitecaveman


p06781
snowman1
Locster
Unruly Baker?
my wife (who does not post here)


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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:13 pm 
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firstlight wrote:
Alright then

I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers



I am size 25mondo and my wife is 23 mondo.

Price I would pay is dependent on quality and design. A quality, secure binding is absolutely required for me.


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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:29 pm 
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wasatch surf wrote:
firstlight wrote:
Alright then

I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers


the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.


I was going for adjustable plate in two sizes at the begining.
That way you can make them fit all diiferent boot makers actual overall boot outer sizes.
My 27.5 Scarpa/Garmont/Raichle boots all have different lenghts, only a small adjustment.
Ill see what $ they would come out at for around 20 sets

Cheers

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:35 pm 
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firstlight wrote:
Alright then

I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers



Screw the voile style puck.
Something that fix's to the board(Karakoram/Edison style).
All it needs to do is fit the split hole pattern, after that it's up to your imagination.
Then a thin plate that locks on to it. Bails adjustable(??) and integrated in to the plate. Boot sitting as close as possible, if not on the plate.

If I get an AT boot I don't want the bottom of it to be 1.5 inches off my board, it's sole is high enough already.
I want to be close to my board, I don't like being high off it.

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 Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:07 am 
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buell wrote:
wasatch surf wrote:
Snurfer wrote:
christoph benells wrote:
whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models... you, barrows and vapor!

haha just kidding folks.
I
BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking... :scratch: How many HB'ers are on the forum? A partial list...

Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer


StaggerLee
mej
singlewhitecaveman


p06781
snowman1
Locster
Unruly Baker?
my wife (who does not post here)




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