I love my 2011 Drivers. I had a pair of 09's and they were great too. Not flexy pieces of crap at all. With the tongue insert as well as the j bars these are solid, stiff boots. The only prob that I had was the speed zone insert tore out of my 09's. It was the lower zone so it didn't really effect the boot too much, but it sucked to deal with. Burton warrantied them though. The Vibram sole is super sticky and grips great during boot pack sessions too.