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 Post subject: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:06 am 
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I've been searching for years just for a boot that will keep my heel firmly locked down. I've tried the j-bars in Burtons and have not been impressed at all. Anyone know of boots that are known for this apparently left out feature? on the same note, is there anything I can do to improve the crappy heel lock in boots?


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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:57 am 
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have you tried molding your liners?


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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:10 pm 
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Salomon Malamutes have a lock down heel strap.

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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:46 pm 
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After much trial and error and several bad boot purchases :cry: I reluctantly put aside any manhood issues :oops: and dropped from my running shoe size down to an appropriate boot size (2 whole sizes).

No more heel lift. :rock:

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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:33 am 
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If neither the internal cinch on the liner or the j-bars help I'd say that its sounds like you have a really narrow and low volume heel. Try a heel shim to raise you up a little in the heel pocket. Probably worth a visit to a boot fitter at a ski shop. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:30 pm 
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I've been riding Salomon Malamutes for about 5 years now and have never had heel lift issues. As a matter of fact this years model has too much heel lock. I already didn't slip and they made it even more aggressive. Now my heel goes to sleep :cry: . But I'd still recommend them as the best boots on the market :twocents:

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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:35 pm 
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i pulled the trigger on the malamutes, received them today. wondering, how exactly does the internal heel lock strap work?


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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:37 am 
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Kinda hard to explain without visuals, but I'll give it a shot...

The internal Velcro strap goes diagonally across your upper instep, lower shin where it's attached to the side of the upper liner. With this 7 shape, it pulls the instep snug to the liner where it crosses down low, and pulls the back of the liner a bit forward up high which seems to keep the heel in the cup/sweet spot of the back of the liner. It keeps any forward/aft sliding to a minimum, if not completely eliminating it. I make sure to lean a little forward when attaching that strap, as it keep just the right amount of tension on it.

As for the boots, Salomon in general has a different fit, especially the F series. My wife at 5'11 has longer than the average women's feet, yet are still narrow like a regular women's foot. Burton seems to be the only brand that has a large enough womens boot, but even those are soft and wide at the larger sizes. So, we had to look at mens boots, and Salomon is the only one narrow enough to work for her feet. She used the Dialogues for years and just switched to the F20, which runs even a hair tighter than the regular line. Nice low profile too....

Anyway, hope it works for you. I love my 'mutes... On my 3rd or 4th generation of them now... lost track...

Oh, and keep in mind the liners are moldable too. So, if you run into any issues, take it to a shop for a pro bake and fitting, or take chance and do that at home... Either way, it'll help close gaps. The only drawback is that, at least for me, it tends to stiffen up the liner a little more than "stock", so be prepared for that.

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 Post subject: Re: best boots for heel lock? customizing crappy ones?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:27 am 
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On the custom fit note,
I called my local shop (ski shop is the only one with an oven) and they told me that baking the custom fits for snowboard boots was unneccesary because hiking would mold them out just fine. Don't know whether to trust that or not :scratch: After all they are skiers

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