Forums Splitboard Swap WTB Voile MTN plate or just the bales Viewing 7 posts - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) Author Posts August 12, 2017 at 6:07 pm #808857 Spencer 128 Posts Hi, I am looking for some bales for a (gasp) snowshoe experiment. I would also be interested in buying a complete Voile Mountain plate setup. sndwork at gmail dot com thanks, Spencer August 13, 2017 at 3:51 pm #808887 Scooby2 610 Posts We recognize your cry for help. You have come to the right place my friend. Verts and vert like shoes are great for climbing steep spines or narrow couloirs. I still use the on steep ridges where I could skin, but don’t want the exposure of having to zigzag off the ridge-usually because its cliffy and I’m on steep suspect wind-loaded starting zones. Other than that if you are not splitting, you are better off with something like a short ski with a built in skin like Altai skis or some 151cm Fischer Alpattacks with skins. My touring partner and I spent almost a decade as bc only boarders before splits, anyway you slice it you are covering less ground, spending more energy, and have sore shoulders making steps instead of skin tracks, with the exception of the terrain where $90 dollar, light and packable Verts cant be beat. There are some guys in the Italian alps that have posted video here that climb with 5lb boards on their backs Scarpa aliens and use little rando skis they make to climb. I think it works for them bc they are usually climbing on pretty firm snow surfaces to shallower powder. It would be awkward on their ling traverse to have the wide split halves and more weight on the foot than is needed. Shoes are just way too slow though since you cant stride out and because of all the lifting and stomping down with each step, skis stretch out further with your stride and sink down less moving you forward better, even on firmer snow. In deeper snow of Western North America, you need float to not spend so much energy lifting your feet up and smushing down. present your thoughts, we’ll talk you through it 🙂 August 13, 2017 at 4:19 pm #808888 Scooby2 610 Posts This is where shoes are fast, hardpack snow, like say running up a ski resort. You just have to watch this video the second and third music choices are excellent!!!!! That’s all I’m saying. I have no doubt these guys don’t cover some huge vert out there in amazingly short times. I might race also if I was surrounded with the most gorgeous high mountains that had pretty tough snow surfaces day in day out. These cats make their own ascent skis and wakeboards too if you follow their links enough. August 13, 2017 at 4:44 pm #808889 Scooby2 610 Posts And skins for the win: Again excellent music selection. https://www.facebook.com/SkillEquipment/?fref=ts These really look like firm snow and shallow snow tools. August 13, 2017 at 6:13 pm #808893 Spencer 128 Posts Morricone and descendants of the Squirrel Nut Zippers always make a good music bed. Though I must admit I have never had a splitboard I have been committing backcountry glisse for a while now. (30+ years). And I have been mostly lurking here since the early days. My days of getting smacked in the back of the head by a snowboard are, I hope, over. But I will say that being in NH there are many spots where snowshoes are not much of a burden. If I do invest heavily again it will be a rando race set up. I am looking for bales because the straps on my MSR’s have finally rotted away and I am thinking of grafting on bales to make a step-in automatic binding to work with mountaineering boots. Sort of like the old Prater/Sherpa system. I could get new straps but I have other snowshoes so this seems like a good chance to experiment. If anyone has some spare Boa systems laying around I would be willing to mickey around in that direction too. Thanks for the videos and the encouragement. Cheers, Spencer August 14, 2017 at 10:33 am #808906 Scooby2 610 Posts I get it, maybe shorter hills and lots of brush in NH, and I learned who Ennio Morricone is! Have you though about making the replacement bindings out of an old pair of automatic crampons? You could flip the back part upside down, flip the heel bail and grind the spikes off if it lands on the snowshoe deck, so long as the heel of your boot fits into it after a little bending. August 26, 2017 at 8:23 am #809234 Spencer 128 Posts That is the kind of thing I am thinking about. The msr have a metal plate that I could bolt bales onto or I could make a new base plate since it has a free pivot not semi flexible bands that a lot of other shoes have. cheers Viewing 7 posts - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) You must be logged in to reply to this topic.