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  • #578546
    40yrOldRider
    4 Posts

    hey all: first post.

    background: i’ve been snowboarding since ’95. i’m 42, have a son. only this year have i heard the word ‘quiver’, but have just got into hardboots (carving boards). admittedly, i’m at a time in my life where i make decent money to spend on ‘stuff’. So i’ve got a few solid softboot boards (two are pre-2K, one a Salomon 2012 grip 154), one F2 carver, and a coiler on order. I also have a set of carving salomon carving skis. If i were to add another board it would be a pure powder board. the salomon is decent in the pow, but i like the idea of less backleg burn. So i thought to myself, if a splitboard rode like a solid board to ride in powder, why not just get the one board?

    More background – reality is i live just outside of Toronto ONtario. This year is probably the example of what my winters will be like for the next 15 years – one (possible two) multi-day trips out west, multiple jaunts to the local 500 and 700 foot vertical ‘mountains’, and a couple of trips to east coast mountains like Whiteface and Tremblant. But where i live is like the worst place to be an avid alpine snowsport lover.

    so i again, is it worth my while to look for a powder ride that is a splitboard? i like the idea of venturing into the backcountry, but i don’t know that i ever will. I don;t plan to be away from my son for that long, and i don’t even talk to me about the possiblity of an avalanche. My ventures into the backcountry would be one day affairs (I know nothing about this stuff btw), and more realistically (if possible), distant hikes beyond resort ski boundaries (guided, b/c i’m scared of dying!).

    other notes – i like the idea of having one set of boots that would allow me to bring on a trip out west (by plane) 1) a (snowboard) carver 2) my skis (for groomers) and 3) a powder snowboard. I’m looking into Alpine Tourers for this right now – will AT’s fit into any set of skis? Any opinions/suggestions for this? snowboards and skis are easier to cram into a big ski/snowboard bag. Taking three pairs of boots? not so much…

    So would i even notice the difference in ride between, say, a Prior solid and splitboard equivalent (like the khyber or swallowtail)? Because if not, it might be worth it just to have the ‘option’ to splitboard.

    thanks for your feedback!

    gerry

    #667562
    Zude
    367 Posts

    Yes, get a split powder board it will still ride great in-bounds and many resorts will allow hiking before and after operating hours (avalanche mitigation in-bounds). I ride everything on a split-board and have a great time.

    P.S. many days in the back-country are not epic pow days which can also be the most dangerous conditions (for me stable is more enjoyable and relaxing). Get a split that can do it all….

    #667563
    singlewhitecaveman
    242 Posts

    Having spent (or wasted) several high-school years trying to be a snowboarder in Toronto, I feel I can give you a bit of insight here.

    I reccomend you don;t get a split. They’re a pile of cash, and they not going to ride ice worth a shit compared to your solid. I assume you’re not going to be driving further than Blue Mt to shred, and that’s a haul as it is with nothing on the escarpment you could tour on. That said, if you were willing to drive 8 or 9 hours, there is potentially some riding in Quebec and New England.

    On your trips to the west, you’ll do better. But be warned there is lots to learn about splitting, so a day here or there will likely be pretty irritating.

    My advice is to hold your cash and concetrate on getting your boy shredding (or skiing, snowboarding’s dead to the kids). Then, come out on a trip to somewhere like salt lake city where the touring is numerous and relatively hassle free, and invest in a day or two of a guide and a rental board. That’ll make the experience easier and probably much more rewarding.

    Good luck!

    #667564
    chrisNZ
    304 Posts

    @singlewhitecaveman wrote:

    (or skiing, snowboarding’s dead to the kids)

    Slight derail but why arnt kids snowboarding….shits me, im pretty sure we can blame it on too many scooters and less kids skateboarding.

    #667565
    40yrOldRider
    4 Posts

    singlewhitecaveman – thanks for the feedback. no i’d be embarassed to take a split anywhere in ontario. i’m actually planning to go to utah next year. i guess part of the allure of the splitboard is just to have more ‘toys’, but i hear what you’re saying wrt to the $$.

    to ChrisNZ – i’m not sure if its been posted on this site, but i have my ideas, perhaps on a separate thread, that i’m sure to get flamed about…

    #667566
    chrisNZ
    304 Posts

    @40yroldrider wrote:

    singlewhitecaveman – thanks for the feedback. no i’d be embarassed to take a split anywhere in ontario. i’m actually planning to go to utah next year. i guess part of the allure of the splitboard is just to have more ‘toys’, but i hear what you’re saying wrt to the $$.

    to ChrisNZ – i’m not sure if its been posted on this site, but i have my ideas, perhaps on a separate thread, that i’m sure to get flamed about…

    A good idea would be start buying parts of you avy kit and learn how to use them. A transceiver is a good start. And you dont need snow to learn how to use it.

    #667567
    JTMaine
    29 Posts

    Totally worth it. I’m 51, got my splitboard in mid-January. I live in Maine, so big powder options are quite limited but I am thrilled with the split. I’ve done some b/c exploring on small stuff as well as an amazing week at Katahdin. But here’s the thing: I also take it to resorts to head up early or late in the day. I can get exercise, take a run or two with the family and everyone is happy.

    I have a Venture Storm 166 with Blaze bindings and soft boots. The ride is terrific for me. Maybe some folks need less flex and more lateral stiffness for going hard in icy stuff, but I like the ride better than my solid. Decent on groomed stuff and just lovely in powder.

    The splitboard can change your winter life…… I’m already thinking about “hard” boots and plate bindings for next year. And I’m planning to take some bigger b/c trips to justify the purchase!!

    #667568
    jbaysurfer
    947 Posts

    @singlewhitecaveman wrote:

    Having spent (or wasted) several high-school years trying to be a snowboarder in Toronto, I feel I can give you a bit of insight here.

    I reccomend you don;t get a split. They’re a pile of cash, and they not going to ride ice worth a shit compared to your solid. I assume you’re not going to be driving further than Blue Mt to shred, and that’s a haul as it is with nothing on the escarpment you could tour on. That said, if you were willing to drive 8 or 9 hours, there is potentially some riding in Quebec and New England.

    On your trips to the west, you’ll do better. But be warned there is lots to learn about splitting, so a day here or there will likely be pretty irritating.

    My advice is to hold your cash and concetrate on getting your boy shredding (or skiing, snowboarding’s dead to the kids). Then, come out on a trip to somewhere like salt lake city where the touring is numerous and relatively hassle free, and invest in a day or two of a guide and a rental board. That’ll make the experience easier and probably much more rewarding.

    Good luck!

    All good insight but he specifically said he’s looking for a powder board..

    OP, if you’re certain you’re going to get out of bounds on pow days, then split it is. If you think you’re going to ride it in bounds more the out of bounds, I’d just get a rockered solid. You can buy one used for pretty cheap and since you’re gainfully employed, you can always get a split later when you’re 100% your going to use it.

    :twocents:

    #667569
    spruce cabin
    263 Posts

    Nice post. Welcome to the (split)board!

    @40yroldrider wrote:

    But where i live is like the worst place to be an avid alpine snowsport lover.

    This in incorrect, sir. Houston, TX., is the worst place to live for a snowsport lover.
    Just look at a map. 18 hours to Colorado. 😥
    Enjoy your local hill! :guinness:

    Oh, buy the split! :twocents:

    #667570
    TEX
    2486 Posts

    This in incorrect, sir. Houston, TX., is the worst place to live for a snowsport lover.

    yes, Houston does suck. Thats my Hometown. Not only does it suck for snowsports, its sucks to be a surfer there too.

    Im 51, had a split for 8 years now…I have to drive at least 7 hours one way for good riding…….but I do it

    And love it

    But ….for you I would just rent a split. I would buy a beacon and practice though

    #667571
    Maxwell Morrill
    19 Posts

    Yes, get one.

    Here is a great option.

    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=24380198&cat=193

    I’ll throw in Voile Skins and crampons for $500.00

    PM me if you’re interested.

    #667572
    spruce cabin
    263 Posts

    @tex wrote:

    This in incorrect, sir. Houston, TX., is the worst place to live for a snowsport lover.

    yes, Houston does suck. Thats my Hometown. Not only does it suck for snowsports, its sucks to be a surfer there too.

    Im 51, had a split for 8 years now…I have to drive at least 7 hours one way for good riding…….but I do it

    And love it

    But ….for you I would just rent a split. I would buy a beacon and practice though

    Howdy, Tex!

    #667561
    chrishami
    194 Posts

    @spruce cabin wrote:

    @tex wrote:

    This in incorrect, sir. Houston, TX., is the worst place to live for a snowsport lover.

    yes, Houston does suck. Thats my Hometown. Not only does it suck for snowsports, its sucks to be a surfer there too.

    Im 51, had a split for 8 years now…I have to drive at least 7 hours one way for good riding…….but I do it

    And love it

    But ….for you I would just rent a split. I would buy a beacon and practice though

    Howdy, Tex!

    Hi, my name is Chris, I’m a Houstonian, and I snowboard (gave up on surfing 20 years ago). I feel so much better knowing there are others like me…

    EDIT: I also feel so much better knowing that don’t live in H-town and that I will be in Silverton CO in 72 hours…

    167 furberg
    163/26 Venture Helix

    #667573
    ontariosplit26
    2 Posts

    hey u guys still lookin to meet up and ride this has been an epic winter so far in ontario the snow has stayed fluffy and it keeps coming nice and deep out in the bush and up north

    msg me back for contact info to do some sweet splitboarding i have several zones i go to for awesome riding

    #667574
    802bushpilot
    5 Posts

    Hi Gerry,
    I am in the same situation, and have just got into splitting. I got the Burton Landlord split. It has worked great for me. I am in Vermont and have taken this board everywhere. It is great in the back country and resort riding. Being in Vermont we have ice and you have to know how to ride it. This split does great on ice. If you have the money to sink into the gear it might be worth it as you can use it at resorts and off. I do not regret getting a split and have used it quit a bit at the resort, getting use to it.

    #667575
    Surferbikerboy
    3 Posts

    Is it worth it to buy a splitty? Hell yeah! I live in Sydney, Australia…6 hours to the snow and even though most Aussies think our slopes are crap, to me snow is snow and if I hadn’t got myself a splitboard I would probably never get on one. Just back from a trip to Japan with some mates who are backcountry freaks and as soon as the chance came off we went…not sure if I had not had the board and gear I would have been so enthusiastic as the decision to go was a morning call…but I did, so off we went and it was one of the best experiences of my short 52 years!

    Now I can hardly wait to get back on it and go explore the Aussie backcountry…for me the investment has started to pay off. If I didn’t have the board I would probably just think about what it would be like…now I have it, I am planning the next adventure. To each there own of course, but remember that the hardest step is the one that gets you out of your house…

    #667576
    NoKnees
    336 Posts

    To get back to you original use case, sounds like you are looking to add something to your quiver for special occasions. Yes, you can kill two birds with one stone on this one and get a powder specific split.

    10 years ago I basically did this. I knew I wanted a powder specific board for deep days at the resort, and I wanted the option to go into the backcountry when the resorts were played out. All in the name of powder… So, I picked up a “demo” Prior Split Swallowtail when I saw it for a great price…. Didn’t get much back-country use the first couple years, but I had some epic powder days in-bounds when a normal resort board would have been a drag. That alone made it worth while….

    Since then I’ve gotten more into the backcountry, found some good riding partners, and expanded the quiver, but the quest for powder and having the right tool for the job all started with that Prior….

    Greg - NoKnees

    #667577
    InTheMountains
    215 Posts

    Having been afflicted with the toronto area for about 10 years of my life I can feel your pain. Though luckily I was able to escape back to BC a while ago.

    that being said…I know of at least one guy that skis AT near blue mtn. So it can be done, you just need to look around.
    I used to drive to New Hampshire and Quebec for some splitting. There are lots of defunct ski hills in Quebec that make for great touring. Mt Plante is one of them, near St Agathe. There are others…Loup Garou is another touring destination in that area.
    And in NH there is Mt Washington and a few other mtns available.
    And if you’re into road trips, there is always the Chic-Chocs.

    I currently ride a burton s-split and and a voile 190 swallowtail in AT boots…that should satisfy your boot problem. I use the Dynafit TLT5, which may not work in a standard DIN binding…but i’m sure there are others out there that will.

    The only positive about splitting in ontario is the lack of avi issues…though I do remember “The Wall” at Holiday Valley (ellicotville NY) avalanching a few years ago…so you can’t discount that issue completely.

    gary

    #667578
    Powder_Rider
    498 Posts

    Ask your self is splitboarding really what you want to do. If your not absolutely certain, then let me offer you an alternative:

    Consider coming to Aspen next year on vacation during Early February when BomberOnline.com when host in Aspen the Annual Summit Express Session (SES). This a week of hard boot carving at aspensnowmass. You can find out more about Hard Boot Carving and SES at http://www.http://bomberonline.com/ and talk to Finn. Note Finn splitboards as well, and may have access Dynafit/AT Splitboard.

    While at the SES week schedule a guided tour with Mary (splitboarder) at Aspen Expeditions (AE) see http://www.aspenexpeditions.com/ They have access to a splitboard.

    If you going this route with AT boots, then consider purchasing the Spark R&D adapters (whereby check with the guide service if they have has the Dynafit toes to use on their splitboard) and a pair of hard boot bindings with slider tracks.

    For example here in Glenwood Springs Summit Canyon Mountain Shop has a Splitboard to demo/rent. Ask for Troy (toy@). http://www.summitcanyon.com/

    Other options are Powder Tours snowcat snowboarding See http://www.aspensnowmass.com/en/events-and…/powder-tours‎

    Mostly enjoy being with your son!

    With any guide trip here in the high-country, one will enjoy it more if one is in aerobic shape, in order to handle the elevation change.

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