Forums DIY and Mods why no clip in between the bindings?
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  • #576646
    cometogether
    385 Posts

    hello: Im new to splits and LOVE it, its too much fun. my question is why is there no china clip or K clip in between the bindings? I mean in the persuit of a stiff board and less torsional flex why wouldnt we put a clip in the center? there is room for it, it wouldnt affect touring. anybody try this? its the one spot we dont clamp. HAHA

    #653836
    RossM
    39 Posts

    My guess is that the gain wouldn’t be that great given that your bindings are the two biggest “clamps” in your whole setup, so putting a little clip in between them wouldn’t add much if you’ve got your bindings set up for a snug fit.

    #653837
    Splityheaven
    59 Posts

    I run triple K clips on my T.Rice w Korakorm set up and still want more. I cant stand that “sheer” effect. In my opinion the Spark R&D set up does a better job of holding the 2 halves together between the feet. When i flex the board on my feet, tortionally i notice a lot of play between the two halves of the board. This is where there is a lot of room for improvment in split board technology.

    Does anybody else run triple k clips?

    #653838
    classicauto
    152 Posts

    search for the splitboard pin

    #653839
    Elife
    38 Posts
    #653840
    Scooby2
    620 Posts

    Make some custom pucks that overlap, see making your own pucks, wildschnee and others

    #653841
    BlahBlahBlah
    21 Posts

    @Elife wrote:

    http://www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au/splitpins.html

    Nice! Couldn’t find a price on their website. Anyone know how much they are?

    #653842
    Huck Pitueee
    145 Posts

    @Scooby2 wrote:

    Make some custom pucks that overlap, see making your own pucks, wildschnee and others

    Plus one.

    #653843
    ieism
    298 Posts

    I’m pretty sure I don’t agree, bear with me I’m not just trying to be a smart arse….

    My custom overlapping “pucks” are about as solid as I would want, there is no play or flex where the bindings are. But I experimented with a pin through the touring brackets, and I can still feel the difference, with the pin it’s much stiffer torsionally. The middle of the board is the most flexing part, of my setup anyway.

    It made me wonder why the touring brackets are not used as an additional structural reinforcement. You could very easiy machine a pair of touring brackets that overlap like a chinese hook, that would add minimal weight and you would not have use extra t-nuts either.

    I already played with a design of a carbon plate that fits UNDER the touring bracket, but overlaps the boardhalves in the middle like a little chinese hook.

    http://flatlandsplitfest.com/

    #653844
    Splityheaven
    59 Posts

    @ieism wrote:

    I’m pretty sure I don’t agree, bear with me I’m not just trying to be a smart arse….

    My custom overlapping “pucks” are about as solid as I would want, there is no play or flex where the bindings are. But I experimented with a pin through the touring brackets, and I can still feel the difference, with the pin it’s much stiffer torsionally. The middle of the board is the most flexing part, of my setup anyway.

    It made me wonder why the touring brackets are not used as an additional structural reinforcement. You could very easiy machine a pair of touring brackets that overlap like a chinese hook, that would add minimal weight and you would not have use extra t-nuts either.

    I already played with a design of a carbon plate that fits UNDER the touring bracket, but overlaps the boardhalves in the middle like a little chinese hook.

    Good idea! i tried a piece of stainless steel tubing between the K tour brackets and it stiffened it up a lot. Maybe a light weight piece of carbon under the tour brackets that overlap as well as under the heal lifters? could make it completly solid inbetween the bindings. i have a lot of flex just above the front bindng that bothers me a lot. i am going to try to figure out how to stiffen that area up as well.

    #653845
    Huck Pitueee
    145 Posts

    @ieism wrote:

    I’m pretty sure I don’t agree, bear with me I’m not just trying to be a smart arse….

    My custom overlapping “pucks” are about as solid as I would want, there is no play or flex where the bindings are. But I experimented with a pin through the touring brackets, and I can still feel the difference, with the pin it’s much stiffer torsionally. The middle of the board is the most flexing part, of my setup anyway.

    It made me wonder why the touring brackets are not used as an additional structural reinforcement. You could very easiy machine a pair of touring brackets that overlap like a chinese hook, that would add minimal weight and you would not have use extra t-nuts either.

    I already played with a design of a carbon plate that fits UNDER the touring bracket, but overlaps the boardhalves in the middle like a little chinese hook.

    Great idea!!! I have no issues with flex but would defnitely use that idea. You might have to slot the mounting holes so different board widths would work and use a good adhesive to compensate.

    #653846
    cometogether
    385 Posts

    NICE!!! Im just worried the extra flex and torsion in between the binders will rip out a 3rd clamp. no problem with that splittyheaven? I too am a little uneasy about the chaffing and torsional flex of the two halfs.. regular top load flex is fine, its the torsion flex for steeps and hard surface I want back. I mean its not horrible but I did split the same board I ride everyday just 156- 159.. I LOVE split action its so fun. just thinking of the ride down too.

    SH- I see your in colorado?? I also thought I read somewhere your in the vailish area? I’m looking for touring friends.. avy 1 and eager!

    #653847
    cometogether
    385 Posts

    show me a pic of you triple K clamps Sheaven

    #653848
    Splityheaven
    59 Posts

    @cometogether wrote:

    show me a pic of you triple K clamps Sheaven

    tripe clips and bar

    I have not been very sucessful at uploading pics to this site? lets see if this works from flicker.

    I made that stainless steel tubing bar yesterday for between the K touring brackets and tried the set up on a tour last night into the gore range. It stiffened it up a geat deal! the third K clip i added right behind my front binding has been there all season and it has not caused any problems, deffenitly improved the performance. wish i would have thought about the bar before, and added that third clip to just above the front binding. then there would be close to no sheer at all. I am always looking for ways to improve performance. Even without the board being perfect, i love the split and ride it everywhere, including the resorts with no problem. Shit i even won Malay day -biggest methofd contest on the split last year. Just to show everyone how far splitboarding technology has come.

    Cometogether- PM me and i will give you my number. I have a good group of riders that i have been riding in the BC with forever. I met one guy off splitboard.com and we have hooked up a few times. I am always looking for motivated individuals that love splitboading.

    thanks. T

    #653849
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    #653850
    Splityheaven
    59 Posts

    @HikeforTurns wrote:

    thanks Hikerforturns! i will have to get better at that.

    BTW, i got some sweet turns in the Gore’s last night. that place rocks! so much potential!

    #653851
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    Nice! Id love to get out there this spring. CCrider comes to mind.

    #653852
    iriecoyote
    291 Posts

    @BlahBlahBlah wrote:

    @Elife wrote:

    http://www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au/splitpins.html

    Nice! Couldn’t find a price on their website. Anyone know how much they are?

    $25

    http://www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au/kits.html

    #653853
    cometogether
    385 Posts

    Those using a rod thru the touring brackets what size rod are you using on the K bindings? im going to make one of those before the weekend. thanks

    #653854
    Splityheaven
    59 Posts

    @cometogether wrote:

    Those using a rod thru the touring brackets what size rod are you using on the K bindings? im going to make one of those before the weekend. thanks

    I used a piece of 3/8ths x.035 S.S tubing out of scrap that i got at work. i ground it down around the brackets because it seemed a bit tight, and i didn’t want it to stress the K tour brackets. It works very nice! torsional stiffened it up a lot. I just rode a hard pack groomer on it and definitely noticed a big difference! Now i want to make something similar for just above the front binding. If your around Colorado i can cut you a piece? Its light weight and worth it.

    T

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