Forums Boots What's like a Burton Driver, but better? Viewing 6 posts - 1 through 6 (of 6 total) Author Posts September 3, 2018 at 7:18 am #821963 shredgnar 643 Posts I’ve been rocking Drivers for as long as I can remember. I have large (13 but squeeze into 11.5), low volume feet, I like the low volume shell size of the drivers, and especially like the stiffness. I hate their crappy lacing system that won’t stay tight and liners that pack out fast. I generally like the fit, at least for the first season, before the lacing starts to fail and I can’t get them to stay tight. Additionally, I don’t want/need a hiking sole or crampon compatibility like the Jones or Fitwell. I find that they make the sole too long for my big feet, and are unnecessary for most stuff I ride. I’ll also ride these inbounds and don’t need to dork out on traction. Just a quick search came up with some Rome Guides that i might like. I like traditional lacing can’t tell about the sole but at least thee heel is rounded instead of 90º, you’d be surprised how much that helps. Not huge on BOA, but at least it still has laces. Any other boots I should check out? September 3, 2018 at 9:16 pm #821994 Taylor 786 Posts I too have big feet and like my softies compact, light, and with two-zone stiffness adjustment. Flow Talons have performed well for me splitting and at the resort. They’re BOA — but the BOA has been totally fine. @sun_rocket September 4, 2018 at 6:51 am #822013 shredgnar 643 Posts I was given some Talons a few years ago and I broke the BOA on the 2nd day. They were also too small for me so I never really got a good feel for them. Maybe I’ll revisit. Having low volume feet always makes me have to over tighten all of my boots, which means the BOA is usually overstressed. I’m OK with a BOA for the liner, but for the shell they just aren’t up to the task. September 7, 2018 at 10:22 am #822127 Taylor 786 Posts The Talons – at least the model year that I own, which is a few years old – have a lace liner and BOA outer, so, they don’t fit your criteria. I keep hearing BOA horror stories, but my soft and AT boots both use BOAs, and, in their years of use, both have worked without any issue. Saying so probably ensures a blow out this season, but, so far so good. Keep us posted on which boot you decide on and why. @sun_rocket September 9, 2018 at 8:20 pm #822261 permnation 303 Posts That Rome Guide is a good-looking boot! The BOA inner lacing is foreign to me, as all of my boots have had “traditional inner laces”…..pull up on leather tab connected to paracord laces and slide the cord lock down kind of deal. It looks comfortable and low profile with a nice sole. I would like to see their inner boa system. The 32 Woodward has a similar profile and is trad. lacing throughout. There is also the TM-Three which should be a good offering from them. Oh wow, they now offer 3 Jones models. If you are willing to do some searching, the recently retired 32 Prime and Ultralight are both great boots and have been cheap on Amazon in the past few months….like <$200. The Prime is stiff like the Driver. September 25, 2018 at 7:25 am #822730 shredgnar 643 Posts Ended up ordering some Rome Libertine SRTs. Couldn’t find the Guide in my size, and hoping the Libertines fit as I had to size down. I’ll report back with a review. They were CHEAP! $179 from BC These are supposed to be a little on the medium flex side of things so it might be weird coming from Drivers but I’m not as aggressive as I used to be anyway. Might be nice to be able to tweak a method a little more too! Viewing 6 posts - 1 through 6 (of 6 total) You must be logged in to reply to this topic.