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  • #797362
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    Yesterday was all time. Mar123 is the man for putting up with me bonking after one run and patiently waiting for me to drag my ass up Red Baldy. White Pine was about as empty as I have ever seen it.

    Felt good to put in a skin track on a classic shot in the Wasatch on a bluebird day. The loose snow, graupel, windboard interface was easier to boot up once we got on the steeper terrain.

    Looking down run #1. My heart was in my throat as I dropped in and made the first few slope cuts. Had to clear out the mental clutter real fast and make the first hard choices of the season. We gambled a little, and it paid off. Still even with no red flags we were ready to get the hell out of there.

    LCC looking so good!

    Dave ripping NE Lake Peak

    After that we headed over to Red Baldy where a group of three was just starting to put a skin track in

    Dave shredding the alpine

    Looking back at our tracks on the way to our exit run

    It’s so so good out there right now! I hope you all got this weekend. Sorry for the shit photos, I have been using my iphone. One day I’ll lug the camera around again.

    #797387
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Nice work dudes!

    December 17/18: What a weekend! It’s been a while since been this good. Used the good snow coverage as an opportunity to do a ridiculous amount of walking and riding.

    Spent Saturday in uppermost MillCreek. Unlike many other areas it was socked-in, windy, cold, yet serene. Turns were amazing, but had to work for them. Hordes upon exit where a shock to the system probably do a BCC approach next time.
    Sunday I managed to eek out a zone to myself between hordes to the west and to the east on the sunny-side of BCC. The snow was good every where I went and in both cases I walked and rode from nearly dawn to dusk.
    26 miles and 10k’ ascent

    No action shots, Cheers!

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #797401
    mar123
    370 Posts

    Nice pics wasatch surf and Snurfer.

    No worries Dan…understandable given you were sick the night before, Definitely noticed you slowed down on the way up Redbaldy but I also turned on the jets a bit trying to catch the Scarpa Alien Euros 🙂 It was a gorgeous day soaking in the views from the ridge and was in no hurry…thanks for hanging tough, great tour!

    #797402
    Scooby2
    612 Posts

    Really cool art there Snurfer, digging it!

    #797403
    Scooby2
    612 Posts

    I like the composition of your powder park area photos too!

    #797404
    mar123
    370 Posts

    Yeah Snurfer those are great! Are you using a filter/art brush of some sort?

    #797411
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Thanks a bunch fellas, too kind. Its funny, as I age out of risk taking I find that there is still so much satisfaction to be gained from the visuals, how we process them internally and express them outwardly to share.

    Are you using a filter/art brush of some sort?

    Dave, I’m using a phone app called Prisma which has a bunch of filters for different styles of illustration/art.
    Despite being a creative person I’ve never been able to do illustration with any measure of realism, so its nice to have something that gets me close to how a given moment felt.
    On the topic of art, I hope you are still finding time to paint. I really enjoy your work and would like to see more if you are still painting.

    Cheers!

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #797417
    mar123
    370 Posts

    cool thanks man!

    on a side note…wow!

    What is absolutely CRAZY is that I almost included this in my initial WhitePine TR on Sunday…dont believe me if you want but… I actually had written what you see below in bold and deleted it because I thought it sounded too “micromanagey” …so what I had included was:

    “For what its worth on the way up we both noticed how wind loaded and suspect the Birthday chutes were compared to most other slopes and would advise not riding those. If the slope looks fat proceed with caution.”

    Some additional insights from our conversation about the Birthday chutes as Dan and myself were skinning up is we both discussed how it was very apparent how FAT the bday chutes looked compared to all other slopes and that it would not be a good decision to ride those. We could tell by the direction of the scouring on the shoulder and the fat deposits on the lee side that it was heavily loaded. …perhaps there has been even more windloading since our visit on Sunday that I could see creating more wind loaded pockets bumping the avy danger back up to pockets of considerable on high elevation steep slopes?

    I think its a good idea to note that were not just up there and riding whatever, theres much observation and decision making going on, risk management, talking about what may happen if a pocket pops, wind loading, cutting slopes, islands of safety, run outs etc.

    For instance when we were dropping in on the NE of lake peak we both saw that it had a suspect pillow at the entrance and discussed on how to manage it. Im sure Dan could provide some more insight since he was the one sticking his neck out on the cut. There was risk involved for sure.

    some more discussions from the day… I really wanted to exit out Scottys bowl, Dan wasn’t feeling it but I think it was due to lack of energy from being sick. Again I felt good about what we rode that day, and felt Scottys would be safe to exit, again if you would’ve asked me to ride B-day chutes that day I would’ve said no way! But looking back maybe Scottys wouldnt have been the best idea just because the bottom is a huge terrain trap now with all the trees and brush getting bigger each year and much harder to manage if something were to go wrong…gullys and dirty run outs.

    Anyways hope this sparks some thoughts and conversation when out in the BC. Theres always risk involved and hope were making educated decisions and not just luck and feelings.

    Sounds like it was skier triggered and glad no one died, looking forward to the full report….by the way some of the knee jerk reactions on instagram make me very afraid for some of the folks venturing out into the BC…be safe.

    peace
    -d

    #797423
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Holy shit! Hope no harm came to anyone in that.

    Sounds like you guys made solid decisions when you were up that way. The mountains and their beckoning lines will outlast us all, so there is no shame in pulling the plug to ride something another day. The peaks are going to be there for a while 🙂

    On a tangential note, although I shy completely away from riding avalanche possible terrain these days, I feel like I often get a little loose in very snug trees, in remote seldom traveled areas. If I’m being fair, I take considerable risk.
    Its made me reconsider my rigid outlook on others acceptance of avy risk. One defining thing for me in terms of avalanche is a sheer terror of being trapped and smothered. It just freaks me out very badly.

    Always good to strike up a bit of introspect and self reflection

    Cheers!

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #797452
    mar123
    370 Posts

    Read the avy report on UAC, not sure what these guys were doing out there with their radios and phones, did they even have beacons and avy gear or know how to use them? Radios and cell phones are not how you locate a person buried in the snow. I mean seriously how would his partner even answer in the first place if he was buried in a avalanche…very strange.

    “We saw no signs of wind loading into Birthday Chutes so we decided to drop in.”… This is really scary.

    We were up there on Sunday and I’ve been into White Pine many times and I dont ever remember seeing the birthday chutes as loaded as they were on Sunday, it was pretty ridiculous and obvious as Dan and myself discussed. Pretty sure we were both like F’ that.

    I feel bad for these guys and my intentions aren’t to insult them and really glad they are ok…but there are a lot of facts and observations that the UAC is not reporting on here, the fact that no one has yet mentioned how wind loaded that slope really was is frightening. I really wish I took a photo of the slope from that day.

    Overall our snowpack is stable, I dont think we have a deep persistent weakness in our pack. In this case in the matter of the bday chutes i think it was a matter of the upper slope being so heavily wind loaded and connected with no support from the face below it only need a trigger to pop it off. I haven’t seen a slope this year as heavily loaded as the bday chutes were. It was really a monster ready to pop.

    be safe!

    -d

    #797454
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    I agree with all of your thoughts Dave. Pretty spooked to see something that big go on a similar aspect and elevation to what we rode. I really wish I had a photo to show the extreme pillowing at the top of the Birthday Chutes. The connectivity of the slide is really, really spooky and echoes the really long connected slide at the base of White Baldy. This seems to be a wrong place at the wrong time type slide. I wish there was more info on the back story of the skiers involved. Glad everyone made it out ok.

    #797494
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Saturday Night – Snow. Low around 14. Blustery. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 20 to 26 inches possible.

    Not the Wasatch, but not that far either… Hope this verifies

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #797513
    Scooby2
    612 Posts

    3pm Thursday update to:
    Storm Details Storm Duration Total Storm Snow Total Storm Water
    Begin – 2016-12-24 04:00 MST

    End – 2016-12-26 04:00 MST 20-36″ 1.40-2.10″

    . . . I remember this Wasatch, hold together storm! and keep bringing your friends

    #797514
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    3pm Thursday update to:
    Storm Details Storm Duration Total Storm Snow Total Storm Water
    Begin – 2016-12-24 04:00 MST

    End – 2016-12-26 04:00 MST 20-36″ 1.40-2.10″

    . . . I remember this Wasatch, hold together storm! and keep bringing your friends

    I’ll second that 🙂

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #797621
    mar123
    370 Posts

    To the maybe 4 or 5 people who read this thread, Merry Christmas!….Put in a few at Georges Bowl today

    later in the afternoon 2-5pm

    visibility was getting better

    slabby conditions, winds were gusting and steadily tapering off. got a few shooting cracks on steeper rollovers. snow rode great for the mellow terrain. prob a foot+ of new….not the champagne blower but pretty good.

    #797658
    mar123
    370 Posts

    in the hood…snow was blower

    Put a couple in East before the masses showed up…

    this all day

    Michigan city air

    Micro Wave exit

    Just a great day, whatever you rode hope your cup is full!

    -peace

    #797660
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Right on Dave, looks fun….!

    Today was amazing! Good lord there was a lot of party riding going on in BCC today. Still, the forest held some secret stashes of pow and solitude and the turns were phenomenal.

    Cheers!

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #797709
    Scooby2
    612 Posts

    Yep, Thanks Mar 123, Cups are full, woods are full too!

    #797771
    mar123
    370 Posts

    Up n over Porter into Neffs

    plenty of goods left…(me) thanks Nic

    views…Nic aka UTAH

    Good coverage up high and decent coverage back down closer to main trail…Was able to ride out to TH with a couple typical bushwack sections . A few rocks on the main trail up higher but they can be avoided if you take it slow….Small grain facets forming.

    #797829
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Thanks for the continued stoke Dave. Love the action shots!

    Friday Decemeber 30 Willow TH

    Snow on the sunnyside is officially beat. What hasn’t been hit is a mix of weather nasties.
    Still some lap-able plush powder in the shadows, but getting to and from is getting rough.
    Area traveled remains visually rad, under bluebird conditions.

    A few more interpretatives (yes that tree is actually levitating.)

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

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