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  • #670649
    Snowvols
    291 Posts

    Mar, I checked Alta’s site earlier today with no mention of uphill traffic not allowed. Also, their twitter feed still has mentions of people getting after it still from today. I would assume they still allow uphill traffic. I am thinking of getting out early in the morning and testing that out though.

    #670650
    KR
    159 Posts

    Alta was still allowing uphill traffic today.

    Short lap in Greeley Bowl, then up to Germania Saddle and down.

    Around 25-30 cm./10-12 in. new snow from this last storm. Below about 9500-ish feet, there wasn’t much old snow on the ground under the new, so I was still bumping over rocks and such. However, above that, the riding was great on the normally groomed runs coming down from the saddle.

    Quick pit on a N/NE aspect around 10000′: ECTP23 Q2. Failure at about 15cm from the ground, in the upper bit of the October facets. No surprises, eh?

    A couple pics, one of the up, and one ready to drop. Peace!

    #670651
    Snowvols
    291 Posts

    Alta is primo this AM for a dawn patrol. Was a group ahead of us which surprised me as we met at the pnr at 4:30. There are several pits out there in which people have not filled back in. WTF? I do not understand why you cannot fill your pit back in. The only thing I noted were faceshots and a few rocks. I will be curious to see how the facets play out this season.

    I talked to an employee on the way up. He said Alta is shooting for a 22nd opening. He did not know how long they will allow uphill access though. Here is to everyone getting some. :guinness:

    #670652
    KR
    159 Posts

    @snowvols wrote:

    There are several pits out there in which people have not filled back in. WTF? I do not understand why you cannot fill your pit back in.

    Ha, I wonder if that was me? :scratch: Were you up near Germania Saddle? I definitely left a couple holes in the snow below Sugarloaf Pk, but there was no riding above them, so I didn’t really think much of it. That’s why we want to fill them in, right? So someone doesn’t come blasting down a slope and fall into one…

    #670638
    Snowvols
    291 Posts

    @kr wrote:

    @snowvols wrote:

    There are several pits out there in which people have not filled back in. WTF? I do not understand why you cannot fill your pit back in.

    Ha, I wonder if that was me? :scratch: Were you up near Germania Saddle? I definitely left a couple holes in the snow below Sugarloaf Pk, but there was no riding above them, so I didn’t really think much of it. That’s why we want to fill them in, right? So someone doesn’t come blasting down a slope and fall into one…

    Haha no these were by baldy, I believe, just on the face with tracks on either side of them. I never worry about pits unless it looks like good terrain around them. As someone that has fallen in frozen pits on white out days it isn’t fun.

    #670653
    SwitchBack
    136 Posts

    This last storm filled things in pretty nice. Ive been getting after it this week. Less and less rocks each time. I have found 2 to 4 inches of buried facets on every high north facing slope and experienced some localized collapsing the other day near Brighton that made us feel uneasy about the slope we were on. But good bottomless turns everyday. North and East are riding like its mid winter up high. It would be nice to get some more coverage down low so it doesn’t suck so much getting back to the truck though. But its only early November…

    From today

    #670655
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Had high hopes for a upper E/NE facing slope that tends to fill in early. Winds cross loaded some slopes and added a mild wind skin to most aspects. Dug a pit before committing higher. Found a very reactive snowpack on this ~9500 E/NE facing slope. After two ECT’s (ECTP 14 and ECTP15) flew off the shelf I extended my column to 120X30 just for fun and got ECTP23 with a lot of pop. Needless to say I changed my plans and poked around some other aspects.




    Good snow was found but I had to work for it. N/NE rode good all day and E/SE softened up quite nice with the sun. S and W facing looked barely ridable. Got my first core shot of the season, lot’s of sharks just beneath the surface. Take care.

    #670656
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Stuck to groomers today. Took a slide for life on the down coming around a corner, getting a little too rowdy. Pulled off on a test slope N/NE facing ~9200 feet found a very consolidated slab sitting on 20cm of facets to the ground. Pretty reactive pit results ECTP 15 dug another longer 120x30cm ECTP 23. I couldn’t keep the columns in the wall to show the interface, they were collapsing the 20cm facet layer, not much of a shear.



    I haven’t found that dormant, unreactive snowpack. Every where I’ve dug I’ve gotten pretty conclusive results, albeit I have been looking in the upper E/NE/N faces with loading since that’s where the best riding is going to be. Take care.

    #670657
    Snowvols
    291 Posts

    Went to Brighton yesterday in hopes of getting 5K vert in to stretch the legs out. I fell short of my goal as I started later than I had hoped and I took it easy. Dug a pit on NW face around 10,200′. On the two ECT’s I did, I could not get a result. So I rode the face. Pretty good creamy turns. Snow has started to consolidate, but the facets were still on the bottom.

    #670658
    claymond
    25 Posts

    Good turns up around Catherine’s Pass this morning on N-NE-NW faces. Was getting hot by 11:00 as I picked my way back to my truck.

    #670659
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Hey Matt, How about sharing some of that kanowledge with us and give us a quick break down of what your seeing with this weekend storm, predictions?

    Thanks,Take Care.

    #670660
    mar123
    370 Posts

    Not to steal any of Matt’s thunder…har,har….Other than talking with Matt these sites are also a great source for Wasatch weather…they may have been referenced in previous years threads

    http://www.wasatchsnowforecast.com/

    http://wasatchweatherweenies.blogspot.com/

    Only to be supplemented with Matt’s obs of course 😀

    #670661
    KR
    159 Posts

    Some news from upper LCC today…

    Up in Albion Basin between 2:00-5:00. Maybe 3-4 inches new snow from this morning, but it wasn’t really snowing this afternoon. Kind of misty and foggy, with less than 1/2 in. accumulation by the time I returned to my car. 20ish F.

    So, all as forecasted, and I look forward to touring Sunday.

    Cool, here’s a couple pics from Albion Basin… no powder but nice scenery.

    And, I was hauling a 30 lb bebe. :thumpsup:

    #670662
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Thanks Dave, I forgot how much good info is on the wasatchsnowinfo site. Dorking around on the UAC website I found these charts http://utahavalanchecenter.org/48hr-weather-charts that look good for getting info on temps, windspeeds, snow, etc. as well. Nice work Kelly, if your getting out Sunday shoot me an email love to chat(can’t find your email otherwise I would email you). Take care.

    #670663
    mej
    81 Posts

    Hey Utah, just saw your post! Usually I am obsessed with touring by now, but I haven’t toured once yet. So I haven’t been watching this thread as close as usual. Very strange.

    Me and my fellow grad students were really excited about this storm a few days ago, but it backed off a bit at the last minute. Looks like there is 4 inches at Collins already today, and I would expect something like 5-9 more before it is all said and done. The SLC radar is down today, which makes short-term forecasting harder. A couple snow sites I would add to Dave’s list are http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/snow/ and http://www.utahskiweather.com. I will be the Monday forecaster on Utah Ski Weather this year, and there are some pretty good forecasters on there for the other days too. It is run by graduate students in atmospheric science at the UU.

    Tomorrow things should clear out by around noon. Could be a good day to tour, although I’m sure the best terrain will be sketchy.

    #670664
    ryan14410
    21 Posts

    Hunted in bear trap this morning. By 1030 there was a good 4-5in of new snow. Went and got 3 laps at Brighton and there was plenty of deep stuff off the groomers, but u still hit all the rocks and stumps since there’s no solid base. From 11am to 3pm, snow covered the car and parking lot with about 10″ or 12″ of new snow. For those who got out into the backcountry, how was it?

    #670665
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    re: Utah Ski Weather – LOL sure can’t wait until “Backcountry” opens 😉

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    #670666
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Ironically the backcountry was the only thing open today. Most resorts, Brighton the exception closed to uphill traffic. Four splitters out to cause hell and rip …. up. Found super amazing deep snow. Slight density inversion 6 or so inches from the surface, slightly supportable in places but had to keep the speeds up. Not many signs of instability noted. Did note signs of cross loading, lots of hollow looking, pillowy pockets up in the high East/North facing slopes. Great day!







    Thumbs up for sure. Take care.

    #670668
    Snowvols
    291 Posts

    Went up Mill D South again today. It was stupid good with no instabilities noted in the pits we dug on East facing slopes. Ran into some guys who said they kicked off a nice slab off of superior. I did lose the gopro camera I think on the track? If anyone has it I will repay you in beer and high fives!

    #670669
    mej
    81 Posts

    Haha yeah snurfer the website is currently being redesigned and the backcountry tab will cease to exist. “Backcountry” is so broad an area as to be essentially impossible to forecast for, and since most tourers will know what resorts are close to their planned tour, they can just check the forecast there.

    In other news the snow was deep in White Pine today. Had solitude all day too. Surprisingly good stability, although we still didn’t let that convince us to jump into anything too committing. The snow structure is definitely bad. On a sheltered, shady slope at ~9500 there was about 30 inches total, the upper half being inverted new snow, the lower half weak, medium-size facets.

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