Forums Boots TLT Speedfit Mod Thread
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  • #822950
    daway
    21 Posts

    Starting a new thread since my post just isn’t working in the existing TLT6 mod thread.

    Did the Phantom Mod Kit on my TLT Speedfits! First time around, I cut down the inner cuff a bit. When I tried the boots on, I got a weird pressure point on the inner side when I flexed towards the middle.

    So…took the boots apart and decided to do the slits, about in-line with the pivot on the inner side and higher on the outer side. All I gotta say is….WOW. These beat the shit out of both my Backlands and Sideral 2.1s…though I bet both of those boots would benefit from a similar mod as well. Might try to do this my Siderals as well, unless someone wants a good deal on some 27.5 Sideral 2.1s in great shape!

    Takeaways are:
    – When drilling out old hardware, it’s helpful to start with a smaller drill bit than what Phantom recommends just to make sure you’re centered on the hole. Once centered, Phantom’s recommendations on drill bit sizes in their instructions worked great! http://www.phantomsnow.com/setup-instructions/boot-mod-kit/
    – Don’t cut down the inner cuff right away. I think if I had left the inner cuff, I wouldn’t have had the pressure point I felt at first before I cut the slits. In fact…you may not need to cut the inner cuff at all, though it would make cutting the slits a bit more difficult (more to cut through). Dremel would have been great, but I used some electrician’s scissors to make the initial cut and razor blades to clean it all up.
    – Cutting down the cuff DOES make the slits easier. Measure twice, three times, five times…then cut. I used masking tape to measure & mark where to drill holes, then used a hacksaw to slowly but surely cut to the holes. Hooked blade/carpet blade is required to shave down the slits so they are smooth, and so there is enough room so the cut parts don’t bind/overlap.
    – Slits are the shit!!! Going to keep them where they are at for now as the boots will break in, but these are the now the most comfortable hardboots I’ve ever worn.
    – I don’t think I’ll need to drill any holes in the upper cuff, but I weigh 195 so the flex feels great (with modded lean plates).

    Drilling!
    Drilling!

    Drilled!
    Drilled!

    Disassembled!
    Disassembled!

    Cut inner cuffs
    Inner cuffs

    Slits! Inner side
    Slits

    Finished product!
    Finished!

    Buttery smooth carpet boarding flex!
    flex

    #822951
    daway
    21 Posts

    Also, I could never really fit in the older TLT6s (green color). These Speedfits are definitely wider. Fit feels similar to my Backlands, and definitely wider than my La Sportiva Sideral 2.1s in the same size which I had to get punched. I have mid-wide feet, so I don’t usually buy “wide” shoes, but narrower boots never really work out for me.

    If I didn’t do the Phantom Mod/strap relocation, I may have had to get some punching done to relieve pressure points…but after cutting slits, these are the best feeling hardboots I’ve tried (Backlands are #2, Sideral 2.1s are #3). I think Siderals just don’t work well with my feet…luckily I didn’t spend much money on them.

    #822956
    generalyen
    47 Posts

    I was hoping someone would write up a thread on speedfits. Any interest in letting go of those backlands? I’m lookin to get my feet wet in the hardboot game.

    #822957
    daway
    21 Posts

    Backlands are going to a buddy of mine! I do have my Sideral 2.1s in 27.5 though. Punched out for wider feet. Would let ’em go for $200.

    Slightly cut down lower cuff for more medial flex. Just never agreed with my feet, other people swear by them though.

    #822958
    generalyen
    47 Posts

    Hmm I’ve never seen the siderals in person.

    #823049
    generalyen
    47 Posts

    So what makes these boots better than the back lands? I’m just curious because I’m trying to decide on my first AT boot and I’ve narrowed it down to either speedfits, backlands, or Arc’teryx procline.

    #823074
    SkateBananas
    178 Posts

    So what makes these boots better than the back lands? I’m just curious because I’m trying to decide on my first AT boot and I’ve narrowed it down to either speedfits, backlands, or Arc’teryx procline.

    I think that out of the box with zero mods the backlands may be a better boot, especially if your a bigger guy. But if you are willing to do the mods the TLT/Speedfit is your best option. So many of us have been riding them for years and years, perfecting the mods to get the right flex that splitboarders need.

    #823143
    daway
    21 Posts

    Agreed. Only reason I got rid of my Backlands is because I accidentally bought 1 shell size too big, should have been in 27/27.5. I liked them and they rode great, but again…like @skatebananas said, the support for mods from Phantom (and the hard split community) really makes Speedfits the best.

    Before…TLTs weren’t an option as my foot just didn’t work in them as well as Backlands. But these Speedfits seem to be a bit wider. And Proclines are still just a bit too expensive, so never tried them. Sure they are great though. I found brand new Speedfits for under $370 shipped through a Campsaver.com coupon.

    #823154
    generalyen
    47 Posts

    Thanks for your responses guys, it’s a bit intimidating venturing into the hardboot realm. But you guys have given me some valuable input. Btw how are the liners in the speedfits? I heard the tlt6 liners sucked.

    #823303
    daway
    21 Posts

    @generalyen I haven’t tried my Speedfit liners yet, never ridden TLT6s either. Going to try the stock ones first before I drop coin on new liners!

    My buddy has ridden his TLT6s for 3-4 seasons, in bounds and touring on the stock mountain liners though. I think some people are just pickier than others with that kind of stuff, he’s fine with them.

    I’ve never ridden any hardboots with custom liners either – my Backland liners were fine, Siderals I found were shitty (would move around). But part of that was where the strap lines up, I bet if I moved the strap back they’d be fine.

    Speedfits seem…OK. We’ll see! Luckily, I don’t tend to have cold feet/bad circulation, so I’ll probably be fine on the stock liners for a bit.

    #826355
    Robinhood
    24 Posts

    @daway you have any issues with the wires coming apart at the crimp on the phantom mod? I just modded my new speedfits and the wire pulled apart at the crimp.

    Also how much did you cut down the inner cuffs? I took off just a little and thinking about taking it down 1.5″ or so.

    Cutting up some slits tonight, maybe a few holes after another tour.

    Cheers,

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