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  • #620301
    bones get broke
    298 Posts

    @ecobrad wrote:

    When I’m day dreaming about snowboarding I’m not visualizing jump turns. Not that jump turns in a powder filled couloir are bad.

    Rest assured all past and future partners–I will never climb anything KNOWING that the descent will be on ice.

    I hope you know that my post was 101% sarcasm.
    C’mon, “powder mountaineering”? That shit’s funny. Our sport only needs one label and that’s “splitboarding”

    #620302
    Ecobrad
    2068 Posts

    Of course dude. @bones get broke wrote:

    I hope you know that my post was 101% sarcasm.
    C’mon, “powder mountaineering”? That shit’s funny. Our sport only needs one label and that’s “splitboarding”

    #620303
    LBR
    116 Posts

    You guys are funny!

    #620304
    bigdood
    457 Posts

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    our gear is about 20 times better than most of the ski gear used to get first ascents and descents of lines back in the sixties, seventies, and eighties. those dudes were crazy skiing the grand teton, alps, even shit in the wasatch on three pins, leather boots, and 200cm plus skis. I would love to see splitboard/mountaineering specific gear but that probably wont happen for awhile. Besides i’d much rather have the skater/surfer laid back influence than the stuck up, better than you attitude i’ve encountered from a lot of people at the crag/climbing gym. unfortunately i get the prick attitude from people in most of my hobbies these days. Splitboarding so far has been a sanctuary for that, i hope “progression” doesn’t turn it into the dick measuring show that plagues so many other sports.

    Good post :clap:

    #620305
    BGnight
    1382 Posts

    We need a strict ratings system like climbing on how gnarly a descent is based on steepness, hardness of snow, ice, technical climbing, and % of likely death.
    Then we can have an ongoing thread where we post how bad ass we are using a scientific, numbered chart.
    Powder will no longer matter because we are all now striving to increase our numbers every week. Maybe when our rating system becomes mainstream then the large ski corporations will make snowboard boots w/ built in CO2 released crampons that shoot out of our boots when we push a button and releasable snowboard bindings that eject from our board when caught in an avy and also double as rock protection.

    #620306
    ale_capone
    864 Posts

    :nononno: It’s about the UP too……..

    #620307
    96avs01
    874 Posts

    @ale_capone wrote:

    :nononno: It’s about the UP too……..

    Gotta personally agree with that…I’m a mountaineer first, snowboarder second. Not really by personal preference, rather dictated by previous experience and my skill set. With the right gear I can always downclimb something I might not be able to ride down if the conditions completely suck…in the end survival and enjoying some time in the outdoors are my main objectives. YMMV :drinks:

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

    #620308
    Ecobrad
    2068 Posts

    Can I block other people from gaining points? Contact Splitboarding, we could be on TV. I think the % likely death is to open to interpretation though, we should only give points if you do in fact die.

    @bgnight wrote:

    We need a strict ratings system like climbing on how gnarly a descent is based on steepness, hardness of snow, ice, technical climbing, and % of likely death.
    Then we can have an ongoing thread where we post how bad ass we are using a scientific, numbered chart.
    Powder will no longer matter because we are all now striving to increase our numbers every week. Maybe when our rating system becomes mainstream then the large ski corporations will make snowboard boots w/ built in CO2 released crampons that shoot out of our boots when we push a button and releasable snowboard bindings that eject from our board when caught in an avy and also double as rock protection.

    #620309
    bones get broke
    298 Posts

    @ecobrad wrote:

    Can I block other people from gaining points? Contact Splitboarding, we could be on TV. I think the % likely death is to open to interpretation though, we should only give points if you do in fact die.

    I’m thinkin’ boobie traps would be useful in these situations. But then you’d have to come up with a whole new set of rules governing thier use. Like “tiger pits” can only be built on the flat approaches and could not contain “pungie sticks”, and explosives may only be used to trigger sloughing and not full blown avys. Of course, anything used by Wile E. Coyote would be completely fair game and legal.

    #620310
    fustercluck
    668 Posts

    @bgnight wrote:

    We need a strict ratings system like climbing on how gnarly a descent is based on steepness, hardness of snow, ice, technical climbing, and % of likely death.
    Then we can have an ongoing thread where we post how bad ass we are using a scientific, numbered chart.
    Powder will no longer matter because we are all now striving to increase our numbers every week. Maybe when our rating system becomes mainstream then the large ski corporations will make snowboard boots w/ built in CO2 released crampons that shoot out of our boots when we push a button and releasable snowboard bindings that eject from our board when caught in an avy and also double as rock protection.

    This rating system does exist. I’m too lazy to search for it, but I believe it’s called the D (descent) scale. I’m sure all the chicks in furry boots at the bar would be real impressed if you told ’em you just rode something with a rating of 93.
    But now you’ve got me thinking that a game of GNAR (from the book “Squallywood”) in the backcountry would be fun – “I’m radder than you. I’m gonna do this line naked and stop in the middle to take a leak. How many points is that?” :mrgreen:

    #620311
    russman
    689 Posts

    @ale_capone wrote:

    I thought it was the other way around.. Elitist mountaineers infiltrating something soulful and turning into sport. Nice cross post on CC by the way.. Interesting to see how the elite view snowboard mountaineering. :headbang:

    Now, onto your comments there…sunshine,

    You don’t see Jeremy Jones dropping Alaskan big lines in plastics….

    wait, i thought current splitboarding gear didn’t allow for gnarly decents? Only sliding down on your ass. The problems are in the up, not the down. User>gear…. everytime. But then your following line just shows how out of touch you are. At least read up a little on the “deeper’ project….

    Granted, a helicopter zooming you to any summit you want must be nice…..”

    I do agree with you that boots needing some innovatives changes, and making noise helps. But until then I will make do with the moon boots. Now take you elite ass up Baker and get some… It’s fookin dumping!!!! :doobie:

    It makes me amazingly happy that my thread has created such an atmosphere of shit talking, just like on CC.com. (Speaking ironically here, because just about every dude out there thinks he’s special and has a right to ACT special. So please, leave shit talking to CC.com)

    About the elitist mentality: I think that is getting off topic! I’ve met so many assholes out there…. The best example was when this Austrian skier guy tried to fight me because my snowboard boots where “ruining the skinning trail”. It was epic… Wait to call somebody an elitist until you’ve MET THEM!

    So, about the term “snowboard mountaineering”. I’m calling it that because that is exactly what I want to do. The raddest climb/snowboard trip I’ve experienced was riding off the summit pyramid on mount Shuksan and then down Whinney’s Slide and the White Salmon. I’d also like to do these separate trips: ride down Shuksan’s North Face and also Fisher Chimneys. There is a line that I’ve been scouting for a few years that drops down from the Upper Curtis Glacier to the Lower Curtis Glacier (way to the right of Fisher Chimneys) but I need to double check a couple spots for exposure.

    ANOTHER awesome dream would be to climb the North Ridge of Baker, and then descend via the Coleman Headwall. This would actually be the biggest and best example for me of what it would mean to truly combine activities. The problem with this idea is that good ice climbing conditions on North Ridge might mean really sketchy conditions for snowboarding down Coleman Headwall (and vise versa). At any rate, its still a dream and that’s what it is all about. :guinness:

    #620312
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    ^ sounds like some fun routes. Also sounds like something that could definitely be done with driver x’s and strap on crampons on a good all mountain split. Or if you prefer spirit 3’s and bomber splitboard dindings, no? (or any such combo)

    Im not really seeing the problem?

    (and we are all on board the mountaineering soft boot, maybe we should get a huge pettition going and send it out to every manufacturer we can think of)

    :twocents:

    #620313
    bones get broke
    298 Posts

    I think the biggest contention to your OP, Russman, is the fact that people are the limiting factor 99% of the time. Blaming gear is a cop out. Myself as well as someone else recommended that you take a look back in time. I suggest checking out the gear that Anderl Heckmair, Heinrich Harrer, Fritz Kasparek and Ludwig Vorg used in 1938, I think you’d agree that, together, they climbed a reasonably technical route. Those guys would marvel at the gear us knuckledraggers are using, let alone the gear of dedicated climbers.

    Not poking a stick here or talking shit, I just feel that you are lacking some perspective.

    #620314
    ale_capone
    864 Posts

    @96avs01 wrote:

    @ale_capone wrote:

    :nononno: It’s about the UP too……..

    enjoying some time in the outdoors are my main objectives. YMMV :drinks:

    See, we’re not all that differant(minus your terrible choice for a screen name). I actually dig it all. I’m just being an ass as usuall. If you are enjoying yourself, you are doing it all right.

    Russ, “leave the shit talking to CC” :scratch:

    I thought your opening post was an invitation for shit talking. Especially when you’re dissing 99% of snowboarders(your calculations), on a snowboarding website. You should have expected someone would take offense. Personally, I am not offended, because I am not a skater, and I have crampons. I was just bored.

    And yes, those do sound like some kick ass routes. Good luck, be safe, and have fun.

    #620315
    96avs01
    874 Posts

    @ale_capone wrote:

    (minus your terrible choice for a screen name).

    Best team in the league right now :rock: :headbang:

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

    #620316
    powderjunkie
    1666 Posts

    russman, just be happy your thread has legs.

    ale, didn’t ya mean

    I am not a hater, and I have tampons. I was just bored.

    #620317
    ale_capone
    864 Posts

    I dunno. I am still high from last january.

    #620318
    LBR
    116 Posts

    I am a skateboarder.
    I have crampons. I strap them to my soft boots.

    Years ago (1998?1999?) Salomon had a r&d facility in Boulder, and they were involved in the movement for a public skatepark in Boulder.
    Because of that connection, I was aquainted with one of their r&d snowboard guys who shared a catalog with me.
    In this catalog, they had a boot/binding set-up for snowboard mountaineering. It was a tall leather double boot with a stiff sole and padding on the back of the cuff. It looked like a tall La Sportiva.
    The binding was a plate binding with a highback.
    I drooled! They were never produced, I was told, because they could not get the prototypes right.
    Salomon did, however, donate greatly to the Boulder Skatepark.

    Further derailment: Speaking of Boulder Skatepark, if you are in the Front Range and you aren’t running up to ride all this powder on Saturday, come by and watch the Halloween Havok Skate Contest! Everybody wears costumes, and it’s a blast.
    If you do, say hi. I’ll be the guy running around looking like he’s in charge of something.
    http://www.ymcabv.org/ymcaweb/files/Skateboarding/skateboard_contest.pdf
    Ric

    #620319
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    I am a skater. I have crampons. I clip them to my snowboard mountaineering boots! :bananas:

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #620320
    Scooby2
    608 Posts

    hilarious thread!

    Condolences to those who split where-outside of spring morning ascents-regularly bringing along crampons makes sense

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