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  • #625152
    ehcarley
    411 Posts

    Tips up mang. I always run one of the compression straps on my pack (BD Covert avalung or Golite) through the wrist straps so that they don’t slip off of my pack on the way down. If I’m just skinning up the resort, I sometimes carry them, or if I’m just feeling lazy or know that there is a long road out.

    #625153
    stoudema
    550 Posts
    ehcarley wrote:
    I always run one of the compression straps on my pack (BD Covert avalung or Golite) through the wrist straps so that they don’t slip off of my pack on the way down. [/quote

    +1

    #625154
    jbaysurfer
    947 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    I use double whippets and due to the design of the packs I use it works best to lash them tips up. No issues with the tips or blades during ragdolls (knocks on wood) although I try not to ragdoll too often (but you gotta eat it every so often to keep you honest 🙂 ). Might try a protective sleeve for the whippet blades though soon.

    As for poles on the down. Absolutely not, unless its out of necessity (flats, overnight pack, etc) but never out of laziness. One of the things that draws me to snowboarding is the freedom and purity of not having to hold on to anything in your hands (like surfing, skating). :twocents:

    Whatever puts a smile on your face though…. :headbang:

    I NEVER ragdoll 😆

    oh yeah…bs w/o pictures BCR!

    Didn’t your whippets come w/ little rubber tips?

    I also like the freedom of being “unencumbered” while I ride, though if I think there’s any chance I could fall a-ways I do keep one whippet in my back hand. I hardly notice it to tell you the truth!

    #625155

    Agree on the tips-up.

    A few thoughts on this:
    • Baskets are up allowing a “catch” to keep the pole from sliding through the straps and disappearing on your ride (personal experience in discovering one pole missing as I got back to Elephant’s Back Sno-Park lot, Thanx to my tele-friend Jay for S.A.R.)
    • The tips/baskets are less likely to catch on a chairlift if you are skinning within resort bounds/sidecountry
    • A good scorpion can put the tips into your backside. If you land and bend your head so far back (sans helmet) that you hit the tips, you have worse problems to worry about with your neck anyway

    Many packs, including my Camelback Hellion
    ( http://www.camelbak.com/sports-recreation/hydration-packs/2010-hellion.aspx ), have compression straps on the flanks that a pole can be cinched down underneath. This allows the poles to be well to the side and away from the head. One tip is to use a garbage-biner or the board carrying straps and lock-up the pole handloops as extra insurance against them slipping out.

    There are dry-season rubber pole tips available ( http://www.sportsunlimitedinc.com/leki-trekking-pole-rubber-tips.html?CID=GoogleShopping ) that I use with a lot of the rocky approaches in Carson Pass (south of Lake Tahoe) that extend the life of my pole tips and have a better grip on the rocks. These tips grip good and have never fallen off in use or on the pack and keep them from finding a soft spot to puncture or scratch in my car or on my head.

    Unless it is a quick decent and flat run-out, riding with poles is a bummer; laying down a hand on a big arc, a quick tail grab or having a free hand to “Palm” out a method is essential! Although on Ski Patrol we do need to use poles for duty work throughout the day, it still feels like sleeping with the enemy.

    #625156
    laurielee
    1 Posts

    Will i be able to pun my ski boots (6kg) in my hand luggage they fit in a normal size rucksack and I’m flying with first choice, does anyone know if they have a weight limit or just size limit?

    Many Thanks

    #625157
    powderjunkie
    1666 Posts

    should I put my 2.1 tires on my mountain bike for the winter or just keep my 2.3’s on there?

    #625158
    a2k
    27 Posts

    I got a BD Outlaw pack last week and after trying several different pole stashing options and not liking the results, I sent BD an email asking what they recommended. Here’s their response:

    For stashing poles on the Outlaw you could run them one of two ways:

    The best way, in my opinion, is to strap them vertically to the pack via the side compression straps – as a pair, so, on one side of the pack; preferably on the same side as your rear foot, depending on whether you ride regular or goofy.

    Alternately, you could stash them on the back of the pack. Cinch the diagonal-ski-carry loop as tight as it will go (adjustable clip is accessible inside the avy-tool compartment, at the very bottom). Next, with the poles attached (one pole tip pushing through one of the holes on the other pole’s basket – holding the poles together at the tips), guide the tips into the diagonal ski-carry loop. Next, twist the poles around, with the loop, binding up the nylon around the pole tips until it’s as near as tight as you can get the nylon (enough so the pole baskets won’t slip through the loop). Then, use the vertical board-carry straps to secure the poles higher up on the pack – allowing them to ride vertically.

    Hopefully these are both of help. Poles are perhaps one of the more awkward things to attach to your pack – understanding that it’s a necessity for splitboarders, these are the two best, most effective methods I’ve found for doing so on the Outlaw.

    I’m liking his second option which has the points down but still above the bottom of the pack so they won’t poke me in the leg.

    #625159
    pow_hnd
    82 Posts

    I have been stashing them tips up on the side of my pack for 16 years (starting back in the snowshoe-boot pack dinosaur days, yea Glory Bowl!) without any problems…. Defiantly been some ragdoll-lawndart-yardsales in those days without incident…

    When I know I’m about to have a flat shitty exit they are in my hand…. But never until the last possible moment.. I never make runs holding them….

    @ty_bee

    @801splitters

    #625160
    SchralphMacchio
    474 Posts

    @powderjunkie wrote:

    BCR – you went easy on the poles in hand issue this time.

    Hahaha that’s what I was thinking 🙂

    @irishgav wrote:

    Ok fair enough if you are on mellow terrain to ride with pole in your hands,but i think it’s a total hinderance,riding tight steep trees? couloirs? 40/50 degree slopes? c’mon that is madness if you ask me

    It’s true, it’s madness.

    It’s not bad with balance or getting in the way once you get used to it. I’ve experimented with every permutation (both in trailing hand held in the middle, both in both hands held at the grips, both on pack up, both on pack down, etc) and settled on a single pole in the trailing hand for keeping speed on traverses & runouts, pushing off cornices, probing snow for depth and quality before dropping in, etc. The other pole goes on my pack, diagonally on the back or on the side – usually tip up. It’s true I don’t need the pole in hand all the time, but hell I’ve got so used to it that, no, it doesn’t get in the way.

    #625161
    Snowmoneil
    131 Posts

    I prefer to keep my pole tips down while riding… would rather get stabbed in the leg then get stabbed in the spinal cord…Right?! Plus my pack kind of tappers from skinny up top to fat on the bottom, so the tips are farther away from my body when facing down… :twocents:

    While snowmobiling i keep the tips up so i dont ravage my seat… Same goes for whippets, tips up!

    #625162
    bcrider
    4149 Posts

    @snowmoneil wrote:

    Same goes for whippets, tips up!

    Yeah…I use double whippets so that’s another reason I go tips up….getting stabbed in the neck would be worse by the whippets.

    Re the pole thing….to me its not about whether riding with poles has function or not with all the things you mentioned Schralp….its just bad form and unattractive in my opinion. Surfers dont ride with poles, skaters dont ride with poles, when I’m on a snowboard I dont ride with poles either (unless its out of necessity).

    All good though man. I’m shallow…dont do what I do, do what you do. :thatrocks:

    ps. Great shot…I think it would even greater without the pole. 🙂

    #625163
    SchralphMacchio
    474 Posts

    But bcr, ocean sweeping is so “aesthetic” and “graceful!”

    😉

    Har har (just to be clear, I consider SUPs to be the nordic skiing of the ocean)

    #625164
    IrishGav
    254 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    ps. Great shot…I think it would even greater without the pole. 🙂

    +1

    #625165
    di0nysus
    13 Posts

    I ride with them in my hands and use them more often than not. It took a few days to get used to be I don’t even feel like they are there anymore. The hinderance of holding them outweighs the hindrance of stop short of a small hump, where now I need to unstrap my boot, push off, sink up to my knee and fall over. On super steeps maybe I’d pack them but usually I’ll hold them. Plus my skiing friends love that I’m not a hold up anymore.

    #625166
    troweller
    36 Posts

    Inside the pack is the way to go. I take the bottom section of the BD Expeditions off, and stash all of the poles inside my 22 Liter pack

    #625167
    jbaysurfer
    947 Posts

    @schralphmacchio wrote:

    But bcr, ocean sweeping is so “aesthetic” and “graceful!”

    😉

    Har har (just to be clear, I consider SUPs to be the nordic skiing of the ocean)

    don’t get me started. My official position is this: if you want to SUP on open water away from a surf break, more power to ya.

    If you wanna surf at the surf break, get a surfboard and paddle with your arms just like everybody else ya freakin’ wave hog! 😡

    Oh my, he got me started…

    Also regarding poles in hand, form follows function, but if I ever think I’m in the running for a covershot I’ll be sure to keep the poles on my pack… 😉

    #625168
    jbaysurfer
    947 Posts

    BTW, I’m surprised nobody mentioned that ice axes are carried spike up all the time, but I haven’t hear (doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened of course) of anyone getting the base of their skull impaled by their ice ax spike.

    #625169
    ieism
    298 Posts

    I’m kicking this one up because I’m looking for a better solution to carry poles on my existing pack.

    They will have to point down, or else they will puncture my airbag if I’d need to pull it. I used a set of homemade loops last year that the points fit into up untill the baskets, and then a strap on the top to hold them in place.
    But what I really want is a system to carry them on the side, so that I could take them of my pack without removing the backpack at all.

    Does anybody have a backpack that does this, and can you tell me what brand so I can look at some pictures to get some ideas.

    http://flatlandsplitfest.com/

    #625170
    firstlight
    721 Posts

    Tips up on both whippets and axes

    Adam West

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    #625171
    Scooby2
    610 Posts

    points down/inside the bag
    I fit them inside the bag now, with compactors, but, I was leading the way through a woody exit trail, came to a stop leaning against the snow bank on the uphill side. My partner came up from behind me, stopped just to my right, because I was sitting on a snowbank, the snow lifted my pack up a little and kicked my pole tips off to the side. When my buddy came to a stop a little off balance and right next to me my pole tip jabbed him one inch out from his eye. Would have been a loss of sight in that eye if he was an inch in the wrong direction.

    I’d say keep your points away from face eyes and neck which are very vulnerable and better to risk them going through your pants and getting your leg a bit. they aren’t as likely to go deep enough into your legs to hit your femoral or something and can do a lot more damage to you topside.

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