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  • #579465
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    Did I miss a thread on these guys? Some interesting ideas there. Can’t say I have heard of them and they are based out of Evergreen.

    http://www.prowder.com/shop/

    #674027
    g_torphins
    109 Posts

    Yeah I was going to ask that the other day too Killclimbz! 😯

    I’ve ordered a set of their saddles to use on my solid. They don’t ship til end of Jan though.

    George

    #674028
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    Hmmm, very interesting! I would love to test some of their gear out, and I always love to support the local guys too.

    #674029
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    I put an order in for the saddle. I have Afterburners. A little concerned that the metal could break the plastic stopper tabs for the Afterburners. Then again if it works, looks lighter and you have more stance options. Came to about $50 with shipping. I could of driven up there to pick them up when available, but it would be about $10 in gas for me anyway, so screw it.

    I’ll report back once I get my paws on ’em.

    #674030
    ctowles
    81 Posts

    Looks cool. May have to try it. I like the hooks, like a combo of the best things of all the systems. The tip clips look cool. And i dig the saddle puck setup although its hard to tell exactly how it works. Only thing i see that looks like it could use improvement is that the parts are bent, and the clips and hooks seem to stick up tall. I understand this is for lateral stiffness, but just seem like more things to catch, or more things to scape your base across if you cross tips, flail, etc

    #674031
    HansGLudwig
    601 Posts

    I really like their HUGE ‘larger images.’
    @cowls wrote:

    i dig the saddle puck setup although its hard to tell exactly how it works.

    It looks like there are three metal pieces for each puck: a triangle, a square ‘U’, and the bent metal ‘slider’ top.
    The pictures have it setup for a 4×4 or 2×4 hole pattern. The inboard side of the triangle screws into your board holes and slide fore and aft to adjust stance width (and binding angle). The ‘slider’ rotates in the [red] tracks to align with the toe and heel triangles. (see picture)
    For a split setup, I think you rotate the triangle 180º [green triangle], and use the other tracks [blue] to align the slider. [Black circles screw into board holes and grey ones do not.]
    The U attaches outboard each slider and adjust to compensate for 4×4 vs split hole patterns -and- more toe-/heelside binding preference.

    Looks like they were designed for Spark Burners/Blaze (where the puck stop is closer to the board) and not Voile Slider Plates (where the stop hangs off the top). IDK about Fuze/Ignition. You still fiddle with pins. You still need a touring bracket.

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    #674032
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    It says they work with Voile Bindings. Not sure about the slider plates but I would imagine it works with those too.

    #674033
    Zude
    367 Posts

    Yeah really interesting, affordable to, imagine that. I’m not convinced that they will work better than the Voile interface. I’d be willing to check this system out for the price their offering it for, reasonable split service to. :thumpsup:

    #674034
    blindfaith
    12 Posts

    The description of the saddles says that they will work on solid boards too. Kinda cool if you have multiple decks splits/solids. I could sell the bindings on my solids, sell my blazes and buy some afterburners and a few saddles. Just have one pair of bindings that can be slapped on any deck quickly.

    #674035
    rughty
    620 Posts

    Metal on metal interface?! Stance width adjustability is based on hole spacing so micro adjustments are out the window. Solid and split compatible even though the side to side hole spacing isn’t standard. Front and rear binding slop would occur in the slider. That would be an easy mod to fix it though. the board clamps also metal on metal which will wear quickly and the sliding board overlaps (if they aren’t frozen due to icing) would lose that snap shown on the video similar to a voile or Karakorum tip and tail clip after a little use. Leading to to tip and tail clips here are passive due to their metal composition. You again don’t get that snap to help keep these locked down. Without having these in hand this is all just simple speculation. The pics and video really don’t do this product any justice. Send me pics George! I’d like to look at these a little closer.

    #674036
    lernr
    233 Posts

    I got a 1BS that I am not using right now (maybe if /when I get a new solid) but this is very interesting, indeed! – e.g. if I decide to DIY split an old solid, etc.

    #674037
    HansGLudwig
    601 Posts

    I think you can make micro adjustments in stance. There is a track in the triangle which allows you to move it fore and aft ≈ 1″. I don’t think you can have aggressive (35º+) binding angles.
    Non-standardized side to side hole spacing is irrelevant b/c the U attaches to the slider in a track, allowing for adjustment. I just don’t understand why they have four threaded holes for each U.
    rughty, you’re so right about metal on metal. It needs gaskets for each of the tracks to prevent slipping: between the triangle & board, the slider & triangle, and the U & slider. And why are there no washers. . . anywhere?

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    #674038
    g_torphins
    109 Posts

    I think maximum angle range is +/- 25 degrees if I remember correctly!

    #674039
    rughty
    620 Posts

    @hansgludwig wrote:

    I think you can make micro adjustments in stance. There is a track in the triangle which allows you to move it fore and aft ≈ 1″

    unless the triangle is slotted beyond what the straight edge on the screen would allow you to believe, it does look like you would have a little play fore and aft to adjust stance width. May be a 1/4 to 1/2″ at most. Some boards do have inserts placed closer together at the half point increments already and that’s where the micro adjustments aren’t as critical. My Salomon DIY is a prime example of that, but most boards don’t have this.

    @hansgludwig wrote:

    Non-standardized side to side hole spacing is irrelevant b/c the U attaches to the slider in a track, allowing for adjustment. I just don’t understand why they have four threaded holes for each U.

    I did miss the slot detail. With so many threaded holes, I didn’t notice the slot. Of course I probably should’ve looked at it on my computer screen instead of my phone. Oops.

    I understand lacking washers to minimize binding height off the deck and wouldn’t worry about it too much. If you used the right thread locker and the hardware was tight enough to not allow screw head slippage then you can get away without washers. If not then you run the risk of significant damage and allow slop.

    How much does it all weight?

    #674040
    Zude
    367 Posts

    Rughty (metal on metal was my main concern as well/icing) but bike chains take a hell of alot of a abuse and work just fine. Maybe these would need to be changed every couple of years? The main reason that i would be interested in this system is because it uses existing holes on solid boards and it’s adjustable apparently. Stainless has got to weigh more than voiles plastic pucks but i’m still 190 so i could lose a few pounds myself. I’m sure there will be benefits and drawback just like all other products. Great to see yet another system to choose from I commend Prowder on their foray into the split world. :thumbsup:
    I’m going to give the Saddle system a try so i’ll let you know in a few months how it shakes out.
    Next year if i come across a good deal on a solid i might spring for the whole package and have them split it, inlay edge (whole nine yards). I’m due for new skins and poles(it’s been 5 years).

    #674041
    Taylor
    791 Posts

    Prowder.com says:

    “The Saddle can rotate both directions up to 25deg & 45deg with minor modifications.”

    Can Prowder please explain those “minor modifications” here and post images demonstrating them?

    @sun_rocket

    #674042

    We spoke with him a week or so ago and are gonna get a pair or two in to test out as soon as he has some available. Next time we hear from him ill mention the thread on here for some feedback

    #674043
    Zude
    367 Posts

    Will this system work with Tesla bindings or only the pin? Not sure why it wouldn’t?

    #674044
    Taylor
    791 Posts

    I emailed Prowder last week with a link to this forum asking them to answer questions here.

    No dice, obviously.

    @sun_rocket

    #674045
    firstlight
    721 Posts

    Be calm young grasshoppers

    All will be revealed soon!

    more options than fingers to count on these day!

    Adam West

    www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au
    www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au
    www.splitfest.com.au
    www.snowsafety.com.au
    www.mrbc.com.au
    www.backcountryglobal.com
    www.alpinefirstaid.com.au

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