Forums Bindings Need help with which binding option to choose.
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  • #656716
    g_torphins
    109 Posts

    @rughty wrote:

    Triad price just dropped to $199 through the end of the year.

    Hey Doug!!

    I was just about to mention this^ but Ken beat me too it!!
    Seriously good deal :headbang:

    George

    #656717
    xcsl
    4 Posts

    Relatively new to splitboarding. earlier in the post there is a comparison of bindings, which cut and paste here:


    1. Current solid board bindings with Voile Universal kit.
    Pros -> Cheap
    Cons -> Heavy, Clunky and increased height.

    2. Spark R and D with Voile kit.
    Pros -> Establish player, burton binding hardware, lighter and more specific than option 1.
    Cons -> The cost with the voile kit and binding is almost as expensive as Karakoram. Edison not released until December Spark tell me.

    3. Karokoram binders. (I understand they come with the interface needed)
    Pros -> Lightest and slickest. New heel lock-down on the horizon
    Cons -> Most expensive and reports of breakages.

    How does the Triad for only $199 compare to these other options?

    #656718
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    They kick ass! Buy with confidence.

    #656719
    philip.ak
    679 Posts

    @xcsl wrote:

    3. Karokoram binders.
    Pros -> Lightest…

    Sparks are lighter when you include all the hardware for both systems (bindings, pucks, bases, touring components, etc).

    #656720
    FloImSchnee
    291 Posts

    @philip.ak wrote:

    Sparks are lighter when you include all the hardware for both systems (bindings, pucks, bases, touring components, etc).

    Oh, that is interesting. Do you have any precise numbers?

    #656721
    Dan De Lion
    4 Posts

    @floimschnee wrote:

    @philip.ak wrote:

    Sparks are lighter when you include all the hardware for both systems (bindings, pucks, bases, touring components, etc).

    Oh, that is interesting. Do you have any precise numbers?

    Yes, I would be interested in numbers too. Karakoram touring system looks bit heavier compared to others. And I think Karakoram doesn’t include weight of the mounting plate in ride mode in their binding weights. As a owner of Sparks I’d like to think that weight difference isn’t that big 😉

    #656722

    Good choice with the sparks :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: , but make sure to get lt pins, I was sceptical but damn are they effiecient. :drool:

    #656723
    bcall8
    125 Posts

    @floimschnee wrote:

    @philip.ak wrote:

    Sparks are lighter when you include all the hardware for both systems (bindings, pucks, bases, touring components, etc).

    Oh, that is interesting. Do you have any precise numbers?

    I weighed a pair of 2013 Sparks and 2013 Karakorams tonight with my digital bike scale tonight and the results are as follows:

    Karakoram
    Medium Split 30 bindings (pair) 1680 grams
    Hardware (4 ride mode plates, 2 heel lock climbing wires, 2 touring brackets, screws) 620 grams
    Total Split 30 setup 2300 grams

    Spark
    Large Blaze bindings with LT pins (pair) 1440 grams
    Hardware (4 voile pucks w/ gaskets, 2 voile dual climbing wires, 2 LT touring brackets, screws) 460 grams
    Total Blaze LT setup 1900 grams

    #656724
    tiltedworld
    406 Posts

    @bcall8 wrote:

    @floimschnee wrote:

    @philip.ak wrote:

    Sparks are lighter when you include all the hardware for both systems (bindings, pucks, bases, touring components, etc).

    Oh, that is interesting. Do you have any precise numbers?

    I weighed a pair of 2013 Sparks and 2013 Karakorams tonight with my digital bike scale tonight and the results are as follows:

    Karakoram
    Medium Split 30 bindings (pair) 1680 grams
    Hardware (4 ride mode plates, 2 heel lock climbing wires, 2 touring brackets, screws) 620 grams
    Total Split 30 setup 2300 grams

    Spark
    Large Blaze bindings with LT pins (pair) 1440 grams
    Hardware (4 voile pucks w/ gaskets, 2 voile dual climbing wires, 2 LT touring brackets, screws) 460 grams
    Total Blaze LT setup 1900 grams

    Yep, noticed the same thing last year when I switched to Sparks. Even the weight benefits of the $L’s make those two systems almost identical in overall, which for the budget minded makes a big difference for the Sparks.

    Philip.ak has an impossibly good unbiased side-by-side review on the site you should read. Both systems are very good with pluses/minuses to both. Competition is good and will lead to further innovation.

    The Sparks were the better system for me, but you results may vary. I will say I do LOVE the fact that the straps/buckles are Burton sourced. Bomber and work so much better than earlier iterations.

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