Forums Splitboards Magna Traction……. Does it really work? Viewing 12 posts - 1 through 12 (of 12 total) Author Posts March 8, 2011 at 6:23 pm #574496 Sufferfest 64 Posts Hi fellow splitters, Now that magna traction has matured a little bit, I just wanted to get some feedback on whether it really works or whether it’s just a new way for manufacturers to get us to part with our cash. Maybe you could give an answer rating it only on hard snow and icy conditions with: – slight difference – difference – big difference And whether there are any drawbacks to it at all such as it hooking under certain circumstances or anything at all. Look forward to answers. Cheers March 8, 2011 at 7:51 pm #637471 numbernine 104 Posts Yes, yes and yes….I personally wouldn’t go back to a board without it, especially if the deck has any rocker to it at all! I suppose that I would rate it as “difference”, it’s significant enough that it gives me more confidence to rely on that edge to dig in so that I can charge and not worry about washing out and sliding down a sketchy face. Maybe it is all psychological but hey this is splitboarding, aren’t we all putting ourselves through hours of hiking to ride pow? :headbang: Mag is one of the reasons why I’m still patiently waiting for a new splitboard…long story but that is how much stock I put into it…mag, a bit of rocker and a efficient shape/sidecut and that is the board for me that will do it all! If you look at it this way too, Lib Tech/Mervin started it and now Burton is doing it under a different name. Their boards don’t cost any more than they did a couple of years ago and yet it would have cost them more to modify their forms so it must have some merit to it. March 8, 2011 at 9:15 pm #637472 alessi 21 Posts Mellow magna traction makes a big difference in crust, hard snow and icy conditions. At least for me it did. That extra 5-10% grip sometimes makes all the difference. When I say mellow, I mean the 3-point version on the JJ Flagship/Solution. Doesn’t seem ‘hooky’ at all to me. I don’t have any experience with the more aggressive versions of magna-traction, but have heard the edge can be so aggressive that it actually slows you down in the turn and locks you in more than you’d want. March 9, 2011 at 12:00 am #637473 snownskate 140 Posts It most definitely does help in ice. I went from never riding mag this winter, to buying a GNU carbon credit as an all mt. screw around board, to replacing my other NS with a T. rice w/ mag. At first it felt a little hooky to me, but i think once my edges got naturally detuned from the factory razor blade setting it hasn’t felt that way at all. I feel much more confident railing turns and am having a blast on groomers again. The turning is definitely different though, and I can see why a lot of people wouldn’t like it as much as I do…but my sloppy style and skate background really seems to be a perfect fit for it…..and nothing is better than straight lining an icy groomer or similar, ending in a nice toe side stop on a dime, something I could never do on standard edge in the past confidently. March 9, 2011 at 12:14 am #637474 BGnight 1382 Posts I have a rossignol experience and a lib tech dark series (both current models). They both have aggressive magne and I love it. It’s weird to get used to at first but I now won’t ride a solid board without it. I don’t have magne in my splitboard quiver yet but I will next year after I get a solution (again). Would love to see lib tech make a landvik or dark series in a split. I’ve only ridden the dark series on a fast powder day and the magne would act real “braky” after straight lining a chute. One time I straight ran a chute and was doing mach 4 coming out in untouched fast sierra powder. I set the heelside edge and literally came to a stop 40 to 0mph in 10 feet. It was part my reaction but the magne felt like I put on a parking brake. Not really a good thing, just saying is you need to get used to it on each board you ride. The rossi has same magne and I find it very predicable and comforting. Magne really shines on groomers/hardpack and most of the time you don’t notice it in powder. March 9, 2011 at 12:17 am #637475 aliasptr 282 Posts Call me crazy but on my Jones Flagship 163W I can’t really notice any difference in any conditions from a properly tuned board. Yes it has mellow mag so maybe it’s not a “true” comparison. Either way when I decided to buy the board I figured since it was mellow mag I would either notice extra hold advantage with few downsides or nothing at all. So I didn’t let it really sway my decision either way. Also this is the only Magne-Traction board I have ever ridden. Just had to but in my :twocents: with a dissenting opinion. :doobie: March 9, 2011 at 12:59 am #637476 gremmie 3 Posts I feel the rocker takes away a lot of the edge hold on firmer conditions and the magna traction brings a great deal of it back. The Lib Tech-Travis Rice has a “mustache” rocker. I think this is better for carving. as opposed to a banana rocker. The banana rocker is very forgiving for any of you who might like to play around in the park. I do like some camber for that nice rail to rail feel, but the banana will rail once you adjust to it. I think Jones may be the immediate go to for most backcountry lovers. Couldn’t find one to buy this year and the Travis Rice-Lib Tech split is sweet but maybe just a little soft. Slightly stiffer might be better. Depending on your weight of course. I’m about 185. March 9, 2011 at 2:36 am #637477 Powder_Rider 498 Posts Call me crazy but on my Jones Flagship 163W I can’t really notice any difference in any conditions from a properly tuned board. Call me crazy, but just how easy is it tune Magna Traction properly? I am not talk’n about use the cheap “toy” tuning tool sold for Magna Traction; I am talking about a full tune with bevels, files and stones! How long does the Magna Traction tuned board last, or is it a pain to tune. Or is it just a pain to tune and maintain the edge? I feel the rocker takes away a lot of the edge hold on firmer conditions and the magna traction brings a great deal of it back. Magna Traction seems to have some credibility from (J Jones, T Rice and others), but what is like to ride when the edges need to be tune? Or is Magna Traction marketing-hype to differentiate from board competitors, like Burton ICS and three-hole binding inserts? BTW: I am stoked about the Jone’s Hovercraft Splitty for next year! But I am concern whether one can really tune a Magna Tranction Board or tuna fish! March 9, 2011 at 2:50 am #637478 snownskate 140 Posts @powder_rider wrote: Call me crazy but on my Jones Flagship 163W I can’t really notice any difference in any conditions from a properly tuned board. Call me crazy, but just how easy is it tune Magna Traction properly? I am not talk’n about use the cheap “toy” tuning tool sold for Magna Traction; I am talking about a full tune with bevels, files and stones! How long does the Magna Traction tuned board last, or is it a pain to tune. Or is it just a pain to tune and maintain the edge? I feel the rocker takes away a lot of the edge hold on firmer conditions and the magna traction brings a great deal of it back. Magna Traction seems to have some credibility from (J Jones, T Rice and others), but what is like to ride when the edges need to be tune? Or is Magna Traction marketing-hype to differentiate from board competitors, like Burton ICS and three-hole binding inserts? BTW: I am stoked about the Jone’s Hovercraft Splitty for next year! But I am concern whether one can really tune a Magna Tranction Board or tuna fish! I know nothing of tuna fish, but many park rats love it because they can detune the crap out of it for rails but it still holds an edge March 9, 2011 at 5:23 am #637479 gremmie 3 Posts I just talked to a tech a couple of days ago and he said magna traction is hard to tune. But it is doable. Jones hovercraft has magna traction. If tuning is such a huge deal for magna traction it wouldn’t surprise me to see camber coming back in. But I think someone will just invent a better tool to tune magna traction. Both of mine are still sharp. I can see how they would be a serious “drag” when the edges get dull. Even sharp they do grab slightly when deep on the rail. In truth I think the jury is still out on rocker and think maybe the magna traction could be the thing to make them more of a all conditions board. In my opinion just about any snowboard works well in powder. I do have a Burton Fish and it is loads of fun in powder and shines the most in “mashed potatoes”. But with a little more work my 156 twin works fine in powder too. For that matter I have an old Burton 181 that works in the park. Fun fun to have a quiver but do we need one? If I had to keep just one board I think I’d hang with my new Travis Rice magna traction split. Sure hoping the tuning won’t be an issue. March 9, 2011 at 8:57 am #637480 lernr 233 Posts I feel a difference and would not want a board without it. (or something like it = multi-point contact edge) As was said: it doesn’t have to be sharp to hold. Still, I prefer it sharp for hard / ice. Haven’t tuned yet, but base should be the same, and side – I plan to use the ‘toy’. Can see how larger stones and files would call for more attention… ‘Jury out on rocker’ – not for me, and many others. Not saying I won’t ever ride camber again, but I am certainly having much more fun with rocker right now. I think I would still want multi-point contact with camber – but have to really ride it to decide Cheers Ivo March 9, 2011 at 10:13 am #637481 jimw 1420 Posts Regarding tuning, so far I haven’t noticed much difference tuning my Jones vs. other non-magne boards. That’s probably because the magne on the Solution is really mellow compared to “normal” magne boards. Maybe I just don’t know any better, but I’ve just been using standard tuning tools/bevels etc. and haven’t run into any issues. Viewing 12 posts - 1 through 12 (of 12 total) You must be logged in to reply to this topic.