Forums Splitboards K2 introduces the new "Kwicker" splitboard system – Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 80 total) 1 2 … 4 → Author Posts December 20, 2012 at 6:54 am #577886 Slackcountry 10 Posts Read the link below, lets hear your thoughts on this http://business.transworld.net/117611/features/meet-k2s-kwicker-the-step-in-split-board-binding-system/?pid=34908#ngtop December 20, 2012 at 7:05 am #663345 moridinbg 148 Posts Clicker is back it seems… I gues this would make a bunch of people happy. December 20, 2012 at 12:09 pm #663346 ieism 298 Posts Seems like a good idea if it works, but I’ll reserve judgement untill somebody tried it. I’m not sure if clicking in to something like this in the deep snow is as easy as advertised. Heard this was coming from a dude I rode with last week, but they didn’t give him a version to test even though he is sponsored by K2 and a splitboarder. http://flatlandsplitfest.com/ December 20, 2012 at 4:09 pm #663347 HikeforTurns 1113 Posts Always glad to see new products, would love to check it out in person. Fastest and lightest is a pretty big claim! I wonder how the boots perform in the skintrack. December 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm #663348 philip.ak 679 Posts I agree with the K2 rep that the downfall of the old step in systems was the crappy boots and the weird integrated highbacks. If they got that part sorted, this seems like it could work, and maybe even work well. I rode a Switch system back in the day (cool binding, bad boots) and Burton step ins for many years (good boots and bindings, but heavy). With modern boot technology and a big manufacturer behind the project, they could pull this off. December 20, 2012 at 4:39 pm #663349 shredgnar 643 Posts Interesting that they would put so much into this setup, but still use Voile pucks. I’d love to check it out and hear what others have to say about it though. December 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm #663350 wjb 163 Posts Seems like you would be better off going to a hard boot setup compared to this December 20, 2012 at 6:01 pm #663351 JimmyC 351 Posts I have made the jump to hardboots—and I am not sure that I am going back. However, I am stoked to see new developments and I am happy to see K2’s commitment to BC products. The future is looking bright for both the soft boot and hardboot folks. December 20, 2012 at 7:04 pm #663352 shasta 143 Posts Rode with a guy with clickers ONCE. We had to boot up a steep section. At the top he couldn’t “click in” because the pocket on boot bottom was packed with ice. We worked on it for awhile (in blizzard conditions)(had to take gloves off, frozen fingers) and all seemed good so off I went. Waited for an hour (I seriously thought he died in a slide, hit his noggin on a rock, broke a leg…) and just began skinning back up for my buddy when he emerged from the white haze, walking. He had to walk down because his board wouldn’t stay on. I’d have to hear alot of good stuff about clickers in the B.C. to wash that experience from my epic trip memory bank. I didn’t see anything in the promo that acknowledged the problem we encountered that day. December 20, 2012 at 7:53 pm #663353 powderjunkie 1665 Posts paging Kyle. he may just have some insight into this contraption. December 20, 2012 at 8:52 pm #663354 Jefe009 675 Posts Once again, K2 getting it so incredibly wrong for the core market. Why does K2 keep believing that their core market is in the 12-18 year old range? Cuz that’s who I think would really be stoked on a system like this. Someone who skins up a max of 500 feet vertical in their local resort sidecountry. Does anyone really not believe that 30-40 year olds drop the most coin on splitboard related products? www.splitlife.net December 20, 2012 at 9:14 pm #663355 moridinbg 148 Posts They actually say that this is going to be their premium splitboard package. Obviously the Panoramic (which by itself is a very nice split) is some underdog… December 20, 2012 at 10:07 pm #663356 Scooby2 595 Posts Been splitting with modded clickers in Utah since late 90s or so, no problems, I’ve had many more strap-in binding components break before then, and not much deep snow out here ever. fear them! 😆 I wish they were making one with a built in on/off highback for longer strides while touring, but I’m sure I’ll get a pair of the boots if they are lighter than what I have now. It will be interesting to see if the boa cable strings over the instep within the boot are a viable replacement for cranking down an ankle strap as in the versions that I have now. Could be quite a pressure point there if the pressure of the cables isn’t spread out through some dense material. December 20, 2012 at 10:11 pm #663357 jive stick 110 Posts Can’t wait to get me hands on the system but, the boots need work. Reliable both boot release in avalanche far outweighs the current flaws. Been there done that. wowasatch.com December 20, 2012 at 10:37 pm #663358 Rico in AZ 559 Posts I loved my clicker system for splitting before the boots shit the bed. One piece in the sole actually pulled out while riding! But I loved the ease of use; and so light. But like others have said, the boots were the worst part of the system. @shasta wrote: Rode with a guy with clickers ONCE. We had to boot up a steep section. At the top he couldn’t “click in” because the pocket on boot bottom was packed with ice. We worked on it for awhile (in blizzard conditions)(had to take gloves off, frozen fingers) and all seemed good so off I went. Waited for an hour (I seriously thought he died in a slide, hit his noggin on a rock, broke a leg…) and just began skinning back up for my buddy when he emerged from the white haze, walking. He had to walk down because his board wouldn’t stay on. ^^^^And I never had an experience like this. But after investing in new Sparks and Solomons, I doubt I’ll be going back. Interesting though. Anybody else see that touring bracket? December 20, 2012 at 10:41 pm #663359 Slackcountry 10 Posts Well my interest is in the ability to sidehill on steep sections, that connection point, 2 to be exact does not look like it would provide much stability on the uphill or downhill ski, looks flimsy. To me it looks like the engineered something to be light and convenient to get into, but did not think much about the touring aspect, which should be the first thing to consider since one spends more time going up than down. good on them for doing something different, I am sure The Sports Authority, Dicks and other big chains will be stoked to sell them. I hope they show up at some of the various splitfests because to date I have not seen one K2 representative at one of them, so to me that puts them far out of touch from the target market. Lets see what they do December 20, 2012 at 10:51 pm #663360 Jefe009 675 Posts @slackcountry wrote: To me it looks like the engineered something to be light and convenient to get into, but did not think much about the touring aspect, which should be the first thing to consider since one spends more time going up than down. My thoughts exactly. Take your 12 year old clicker system, slap it on some current-gen midrange product, (have your marketing manager instead of an actual splitboard athlete do the product testing!?! :nononno: :scratch: :nononno:) and market it to noobs. @slackcountry wrote: Dicks and other big chains will be stoked to sell them. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 …Also, keep an eye out for these in the gear swap section in the next few years. Atomic Poacher anyone? www.splitlife.net December 20, 2012 at 10:54 pm #663361 Scooby2 595 Posts you might not like that aspect of these Slack. One of the things I really like about the clickers is a lot of side to side wobble in the binding before you even flex the boot. looser than a strap in really. the old bindings had little cushions that you could build up to make medial flex stiffer, we don’t use any medial supports in our mods out here but that could be a Utah snow-snob thing as most firm places where you have to sidehill here are short and manageable or avoidable altogether. I would say if you are even close to the hard boot fence and like skinning focused boots for difficult snow, Clickers aren’t for you by a longshot. If you recognize that there are a lot of days in your touring where any bindings at all may be a little superfluous, then you are more of a clicker candidate. looks like their Boa-Conda named design specifically addressed lack of an external ankle strap, cool December 20, 2012 at 11:58 pm #663362 walove 65 Posts Does it have a walk mode? Forward lean adjustment? A boot stiff enough to ride without a high back does not sound fun to tour in, if it has a real walk mode with rear articulation and forward lean adjustment then thats something. Then i ask… If a binding is not supporting me while i tour, why do i need the plate?, lets see some dynafit, nnn style boot. if i dont need a plate to tour, why dont i use some sparks for the way down? because the people like straps. K2 i think your doing it wrong. December 21, 2012 at 3:44 am #663363 Zude 364 Posts [*]I loved my clicker system for splitting before the boots shit the bed. One piece in the sole actually pulled out while riding! But I loved the ease of use; and so light. But like others have said, the boots were the worst part of the system. (Not sure how to qoute (or spell) and really lazy sorry Rico) My buddy still rides those clicker boots afters 10 years of abuse, they look like torcher devises. But i think this system looks sweet (all depends on the boot). In a perfect world the boot would join the board halves (and release in an avalanche) plus use the dyna system for touring. Frankly the real kicker here for me will be price$$$$ The hard boot systems looks great but the coin is fucking ridiculous. I’m touring with Insano focus boas this year and so far i’m pretty bummed on the no walk mode. Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 80 total) 1 2 … 4 → You must be logged in to reply to this topic.