Forums Boots Just picked up new Spark Deeluxe XVs, first impressions…
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  • #577282
    Jefe009
    675 Posts

    Just picked them up, and am super stoked on them. Haven’t ridden them yet but plan to in the coming weeks.

    First impressions:

    Pros:
    Heel Welt means no more strap crampons, can use real crampons
    Lacing system seems easier to dial in than last years
    Vibram sole is bomber
    Forward flex is about as stiff as Drivers/T1s/etc…
    Still feels like a snowboard boot, albeit with some nice features

    Cons:
    The main thing in my mind is, why not make the whole toe box area hard plastic? This might add an oz per boot or something, but would address the wear issues seen on last years’ boots. And kicking steps in hardpack conditions would be way more stable. Xavier, you listening? 😆

    Other than the heel welt and changing the colors, I’m not sure what other updates have been made since last year. I’m stoked to get out on these things and try them out.

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    #659017
    HansGLudwig
    601 Posts

    @jefe009 wrote:

    I’m not sure what other updates have been made since last year.

    You’re forgetting the “XV” for added Xavier factor.

    But seriously sweet. Enjoy. I can’t wait to hear more.

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    #659018
    dishwasher-dave
    460 Posts

    jefe,

    Thanks for the initial review. A couple preguntas about how the XV’s compare to last years model:

    overall bulk: Is a size 10 (for example) XV the same size toe to heel as a size 10 of last year’s boot? How about overall exterior bulk of the toe, ankle and shin areas?

    backward flex: For flat touring and all day/multiday comfort does the boot upper allow any backward flex?

    I liked the Sparks from last year but I did find them “bigger” than previous boots. I couldn’t even get some lightweight spring pants over the uppers and I had more toe/heel drag than I had before.

    #659014
    Jefe009
    675 Posts

    @dishwasher-dave wrote:

    overall bulk: Is a size 10 (for example) XV the same size toe to heel as a size 10 of last year’s boot? How about overall exterior bulk of the toe, ankle and shin areas?

    I think they are exactly the same design/profile as last years. As far as I can tell. They are still ‘big’ boots. I do notice that it’s an upgraded intuition liner over last years.

    @dishwasher-dave wrote:

    backward flex: For flat touring and all day/multiday comfort does the boot upper allow any backward flex?

    Very little. There is some level of forward lean, but side/back flex is very limited. I imagine this is to improve the stiff riding feel and help with sidehilling.

    Related: Deeluxe is apparently selling more of last year’s model as a model this year. (Leftovers?) They are on the website. They are retailing for a lot less than last year.

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    #659019
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    We got to check them out at the Silverton Splitfest last year. They are quite a bit different and improved. Smaller, lighter, heel welt and different materials too. I’m sure the distributors could cover the changes better than I but I thought it was a good example of a product maturing.

    #659016
    christoph benells
    717 Posts

    @jefe009 wrote:

    Related: Deeluxe is apparently selling more of last year’s model as a model this year. (Leftovers?) They are on the website. They are retailing for a lot less than last year.

    they are still selling the spark (no changes) for 12/13, and have the upgrade xv.

    jefe you blew it, should bought from me…%%%%%

    #659015
    Jefe009
    675 Posts

    If Next wouldn’t leave my pockets broken every time I walk out of there I’d have bought em from ya… 😆

    JK buddy. Glad you made it out last night.

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    #659020
    prior_rider
    109 Posts

    how is the fit compared to other shoes / boots? I don’t think I would buy a product like this online unless I knew the exact size I would need.

    #659021
    Jefe009
    675 Posts

    Just got my first mini tour on these. Headed up Palmer on Hood to get some early season pow turns (pretty nice btw… 8) ) and they are great. Skin well, ride great, what else do you want. They have a very big profile, I had to move my binding buckles to their largest setting just to get em to catch.

    Only toured about 3 miles, so no feedback on long term comfort. Overall, very pleased with them.

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    #659022
    mofoco
    94 Posts

    Ahhh…crap dude. Forgot you texted me. I was on the east coast for a couple weeks. Back now, and ready to get out.

    #659023
    vasco
    8 Posts

    I both the last years model and didn’t even bother riding them.
    The shoe was soo big that i could barely strap them on and my toe would stick out massively.
    actually they were almost 1 inch longer than other brands ton the same size.
    Would love to have that vibram sole for mountaineering but until they get rid of the huge bulk its a no go for me.

    #659024
    Jefe009
    675 Posts

    @vasco wrote:

    I both the last years model and didn’t even bother riding them.
    The shoe was soo big that i could barely strap them on and my toe would stick out massively.
    actually they were almost 1 inch longer than other brands ton the same size.
    Would love to have that vibram sole for mountaineering but until they get rid of the huge bulk its a no go for me.

    Yeah, that’s kind of a downer. I wish they could bring down the size, but if you look at Deeluxe’s other boots they are all kind of bulky.

    However, these boots ride amazingly well. Unless you have huge feet and a skinny board, I don’t really see the downside to the size other than that they are a little heavier than other boots.

    IMHO the size is a very small tradeoff for the sole, comfort, rideability, crampon compatibility, etc….

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    #659025
    tuff_enuff
    46 Posts

    @vasco wrote:

    Would love to have that vibram sole for mountaineering but until they get rid of the huge bulk its a no go for me.

    well, k2 has a boot with vibram sole aswell: http://k2snowboarding.com/product/thraxis-1213?category=2011-12
    but that’s about as much as i know about that boot.

    #659026
    VTSplitBoarder
    2 Posts

    Deeluxe needs to start making boots for bigger footed riders. I was stoked to get a pair of these this year, then found out they don’t make anything bigger than 12.5. I am a 13. How can you make boots for men, and stop at 12.5. Bogus if you ask me…Went with Burton’s Driver X.

    #659027
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    @vtsplitboarder wrote:

    Deeluxe needs to start making boots for bigger footed riders. I was stoked to get a pair of these this year, then found out they don’t make anything bigger than 12.5. I am a 13. How can you make boots for men, and stop at 12.5. Bogus if you ask me…Went with Burton’s Driver X.

    I’m more worried about the amount of overhang one will have if they buy these in a large size. Seems like the heel welts will create a longer sole that will cause toe/heel drag. Maybe that’s why they don’t make them bigger.

    If you need a half size though, you could probably heat mold them to stretch a half size by bulking up the toe during the mold. Or buy some intuitions.

    Do any of our big footed brethren have any reviews on the length of these boots and how they effect toe/heel drag?

    #659028
    FloImSchnee
    290 Posts

    @shredgnar wrote:

    I’m more worried about the amount of overhang one will have…

    Me too, definitely.

    I wanted to buy a Deeluxe Spark last year, size 12. However as it had a considerably longer sole than Flow The Ones or Burton Driver Xs, I went for a Flow The One.

    Still, toe and heel drag is an issue for me, causing me to only buy boards with 27cm waist. And even with that waist there is some drag, when carving aggressively. (when I’m riding on piste on after-work-hikes)

    #659029
    Zude
    364 Posts

    Why not a 28 cm waist? Bigger footed guys usually have longer limbs and more leverage to over come the wide board. I ride only a 27 cm waist with size 12’s(6 feet). :scratch: Still sometimes my toes do seem to stick out. The Fitwells look sweet as well, wonder what the size comparison is with the deluxes?

    #659030
    splitn2
    125 Posts

    If you guys are keen I will take photos of a brand new pair of Fitwell and brand new Deeluxe Spark boot, in such a way to show the relative binding toe/heel overlap in ride and touring mode, how does that sound? I have sold a pair of Fitwell in size US11.5, the guy is riding a Never Summer Summit split with Spark Blazes, no probs at all. Here is his review. http://issuu.com/splitn2/docs/fitwellbackcountry/1

    The Sparks are quite a bit bulkier and not nearly as durable, although one pair of sparks I sold have done 120+ days, but are pretty much trashed now after a fair bit of touring and riding. That said the Sparks are a little cheaper, bangs for bucks basically.

    cheers
    Rich

    Richard Harcourt
    WWW.SPLITN2.COM
    New Zealand Splitboard Equipment Specialist
    Spark R&D | Fitwell Backcountry / Freeride | SPLITN2 Custom Splitboards
    e: sales@splitn2.com
    p: +64 3 3266585

    #659031
    tr_nz
    24 Posts

    Yeah, for you big hoofed guys, don’t discount the Fitwell’s eh. Mine are lower external volume/profile than the Salomon’s I was riding previously – which were fairly low volume. I tend to avoid wide “wide” boards.

    Don’t assume that being big footed means you can’t get the benefits of a heel welt and solid alpine focused construction. It might cost a bit, but I guess there’s a reason for that eh.

    Cool to see Deeluxe are progressing the Spark boot too. I was talking technical crampons with a local supplier of mountaineering gear recently, he can’t believe how far snowboard boots have come.

    #659032
    FloImSchnee
    290 Posts

    @zude wrote:

    Why not a 28 cm waist?

    Well, it’s not exactly that easy to buy boards with that waist.
    Actually the only serial production board I know with such a waist is the (solid) Elan El Grande 171 (28,4cm).

    Most companies believe, that a board with 26cm waist is “wide”… 😥

    I purchased a Prior Spearhead 178 XTC this year (26,5cm waist claimed, in fact 27cm waist fortunately). I could have opted for a 28cm waist as a custom job, however this would have cost another USD500 which I didn’t want to spend.

    Apart from that, it’s getting more and more difficult to hike, the wider your board is. Especially in Europe, where there will be ski-sized skin tracks on most mountains.

    @richie: thanks for the link!

    @tr_nz wrote:

    Yeah, for you big hoofed guys, don’t discount the Fitwell’s eh. Mine are lower external volume/profile than the Salomon’s I was riding previously – which were fairly low volume.

    Sound’s good!
    Perhaps I can find a shop in Austria, where I can slip into Fitwells to see whether they fit.

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