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  • #643052
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    63 Posts

    Is this thing a split yet?

    #643053
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    1487 Posts

    @snowman1 wrote:

    Is this thing a split yet?

    Mine is… 😉

    #643054
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    63 Posts

    Indeed, very nice. Ever get to Berthoud? Very interested in you binder setup, and info?

    Think Snow!

    #643055
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    1487 Posts

    @snowman1 wrote:

    Indeed, very nice. Ever get to Berthoud? Very interested in you binder setup, and info?

    Think Snow!

    On this board I use Dynafit Speed Ultralight toe pieces, and Burton Race Plate Mod bindings. See Sognar’s thread in the bindings forum for detailed descriptions of the bindings, he made the same binding set up as mine.
    pic is from Berthoud last week…

    #643056
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    224 Posts

    Good morning,
    Here’s my stats and background: 37yo, 6′, 185lbs, size 11, 15+ yrs riding, some college, lift-access powder bum, 9 seasons riding Beaver Creek, 7 and counting in southern CO. I embraced the fish-style tapered boards in 2004 for their powder and quick turning capabilities. Upon moving south, I soon discovered the need for a powder quiver. My 157 Stepchild Ranquet with the Les Paul graphic was my first taper shape, and it changed my riding and board purchases for the next 6 years…Ranquet 159, Malolo 162, Rossi Jones 167 (biggest board ridden), Hovercraft 156, and Elan Wave Rider 164, all tapered. I rode the Elan (very similar tail as Furberg)for the first part of this season, and my short taper shooter days were over. I needed some tail. Then I googled around looking for unique board shapes and found you guys discussing Furberg :bow: .
    February was pretty epic, and I put myself and the Furbergs through the test. The 167 was ridden the most followed closely by the 162. I finally rode the 173 for 4 hours on a bottomless, free-refills, brutally stormy day. The weather kept us in the trees with a couple short hikes to steeper, more open terrain. The 173 was a unique experience being the longest board I have ridden. The wide open turns on steeper pitches were great, but the trees not so much. I was craving a bigger mountain or shorter board. This size just didn’t feel as comfortable as the 167, too much board for me. My buddy was on my orange 167, and the 162 was in the truck. I had options, but we were having too much fun, so I waited till lunch to downsize. I wanted to ride the 167, but my buddy wasn’t going to give it up. He was definitely getting his groove on…powder wheelies and butters and constant chairlift chatter about how sick the board is. The 162 would be my afternoon ride, and we went until closing. It was a great day.
    The 167 is the best board I have ridden but still the 162 follows closely. All the days on the Furbergs were powder days and day-old leftovers except yesterday. We got skunked by this last storm. It only snowed 2” on top of week old crust. I figured the 162 would be fun to try under these conditions. The ski area was having a meeting about future expansion at 2:00, so I made a few laps, went to the meeting, then rode the last hour. The Furberg will absolutely rail on groomers. I have always enjoyed carving and bombing down groomers (Beaver Creek style), but with a traditional size sidecut 7-9m, doing both at one time is not really possible. If the run allows, you can open ‘er up and do some huge radius carves. It will lock in, and you will be flying. I have gone faster, but not with that much confidence in my board.
    The Furbergs are filling a big niche in my quiver. They are my quiver 162/167. I want a Furberg split but am at least waiting for the Edisons to be released. The 173 is available for demo or sale, if you are interested. The 162 and 167 are available to demo only.
    Observations:
    Skiers have been more inquisitive than snowboarders, especially DPS dudes. Furbergs and DPS look alike construction-wise. They may be made in the same factory?
    Construction and quality seem spot on so far.
    Durability is excellent. The topsheet is resistant to chipping and repels snow well. My bases have taken a few hits from rocks and one stump. The rocks left minimal scrapes. The stump was a direct hit to the center of the base while doing a heelside pow slash. It left a very shallow contusion in the base 0.5mm or less. It felt a lot worse than it was.
    Powder wheelies are insane! This board may make you want to butter.
    The looks of the board are really appealing to me with the clean logo and no graphics. The purple gets intense in sunlight, very bright board. One liftie told me I had a pretty board. The orange is nice, and the teal is nice also.
    The shape is unique. At first, I found myself staring at my board on the lift and at home. Now the Furberg seems normal and my other boards look different.
    I feel like I can ride longer on the Furbergs before my legs are done. In the past on powder days, I would be there at open and ride nonstop til 1:00 or 2:00, and I would be beat. This past month, there were 5 days where I grabbed a candy bar and kept riding until close with no lunch break. It’s gotta be the board saving me energy on catwalks and maybe the overall stoke. The shallow sidecut and rocker make for a catch-free ride on catwalks. I have found myself straightlegging and flatbottoming more which saves the legs. Plus, switch is a breeze if needed or wanted.
    I am not sure what else to say that isn’t “geeked out” praise of how it rides. I am completely satisfied with Furberg boards and am glad I stumbled upon this thread. Thanks again guys.

    go furberg yourself

    #643057
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    45 Posts

    @permnation wrote:

    It will lock in, and you will be flying. I have gone faster, but not with that much confidence in my board.

    The shallow sidecut and rocker make for a catch-free ride on catwalks.

    Agree, so much faster and more stable groomers than i thought it would be.
    Agree, not just on cat walk, but even on sketchy traverses, i can much further and with ease than on any other board i’ve ridden.
    Thanks for the great review.

    #643058
    Profile photo of BjorgvinBjorgvin
    74 Posts

    Nice review there!!
    Strange how 5cm would make that of a difference? I have the 173 and it makes me think maybe I should have gotten the 167… But on the other side I am 210lbs and the 173 is the correct lenght according to Furbergs recom.

    #643059
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    224 Posts

    Bjørgvin, I think you made the right choice based on your weight, but I felt I was too short for the 173. My preferred stance is 580mm. The ref. stance on the 162 is 580, the 167 is 590, and the 173 has no ref. marks, but I would guess it would be 600mm. I rode the 173 with a 580mm width stance which put me in the center, and it looked narrow in relation to the length of the board. This narrow of a stance on that long of a board seemed to make it flex more. It felt flexier than either of the 2 smaller sizes. I still had a great time riding the 173, but it limited my maneuverabilty and forced me to change my riding style to fit the length. By the time I rode the 173, I already had 5+ days each on the 162/167 and knew the 167 was the right size for me on powder days. I have always ridden shorter boards like the Ranquet 157 for powder days, so the 167 is a long board to me. My future purchases of new Furbergs will be determined by the ref. stance when deciding what length to get. Think snow and enjoy your ride.

    go furberg yourself

    #643060
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    1487 Posts

    I am 6’1″ and ~170 lbs. I ride a 21.75″ stance on my 173 (DIY split) and it is perfect for me as a pow board. I am interested in a 167 as well, as a more every day backcountry splitboard (I do not ride lifts at all, at least around here). The 173 is plenty maneuverable as long as the snow has some real depth, and is also fine in choppy conditions if the terrain allows for some speed. I suspect I would love the 167 on those less than perfect days in the backcountry.
    As a pow board, the extra surface area of the 173 would be my choice every time, but I am talking about real pow, not 10″ of fresh lift served with a packed base underneath. In 3D snow, the furbergs rule! So much fun…

    #643061
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    224 Posts

    Barrows, Come on down to Wolf Creek some time. You’re welcome to ride my 167 until I start twitching from withdrawals. If you have ridden WC, then you know how a big gun may be somewhat restricting. 10″ down here is just dust on crust. I was seeing 3D all of February. Take care and think snow. Nate

    go furberg yourself

    #643062
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    1487 Posts

    I have ridden WC, the ski area that is. These days I do not ride the lifts though, kind of a commitment to the backcountry I have. I would be OK at WC on the 173 some days, but the 167 would probably be a more likely choice as a daily rider there, especially for the Knife Ridge.
    I just do not want readers to think that the 173 rides “big” in powder. As an example, I rode 173/174 cm Burton Supermodels for a few years, and the 173 furberg is way quicker turning than those boards as long as the snow is 3D-the rocker and much more “floaty” shape, and the freedom to pivot and smear at will make this board much more manueverable than traditional shapes the same length. I had no problem at Berthoud Pass in steep trees on the 173 as long as it was powder.
    I am hoping Daniel will be making splitboards for next year…

    #643063
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    224 Posts

    Barrows, I agree with you empathetically, but we come from two different schools of thought. I firmly believe in length depends on style of riding, and big mountain does not translate into more cms. I know this is a splitboard forum and bigger lines are more the norm, but I don’t want people to think upsizing should be normal. I wouldn’t hesitate to take the 162 and leave the rest. I have had the luxury of riding all 3 on bottomless, 3D days, and all sizes are beyond fun and ripping at 190lbs, just re-weighed. The 173 felt great when steep and deep but sluggish at low-angle for my style of riding; fast and slashy. The Furbergs are great boards, but if I would have gone with the 173 at first my sentiments would definitely be different. I have nothing to gain from this except internet banter between fellow riders. If anything, I would prefer my fellow riders disregard the praises and continue on with their sick sticks…more Furbergaling for me. Think snow. Nate

    go furberg yourself

    #643064
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    74 Posts

    FINALLY got to take the 173 furberg out. 😀 Coming home and now reading your last posts I can agree.
    Conditions were windblown pow, deep pow, icy crust and nice groomers.
    The first hour of the day started with low visibility and I had to keep my speed down. At low speed I felt somewhat disapointed with the board. Felt like the board was dragging me along. Maybe a 167 would be better here.
    But when I got to know the board and the sun came out my experience changed. When this board gets up some speed its a silkysmooth ride :bananas: The nose just raises up from the snow and there is little chance of hooking the edge when doing pow turns.
    Also felt stable on high speed grooming with wide turns.
    So I am all in all super happy with what I like the most. Open powder bowls.
    Maybe I`ll do a DIY split with the 173 and buy a 167 for resorts.

    #643065
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    45 Posts

    Here is a vid of the Furberg in 19in of cold smoke powder after an annoyingly long drought without any 🙂 Along with all the other things it kills at, I was amazed at the float, nothing ive ridden compares (of course, its also the longest, but still). Not really a video of BC or splitting, but thought i’d share here since im riding the Furberg.

    #643066
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    1487 Posts

    @mtsurfr wrote:

    Here is a vid of the Furberg in 19in of cold smoke powder after an annoyingly long drought without any 🙂 Along with all the other things it kills at, I was amazed at the float, nothing ive ridden compares (of course, its also the longest, but still). Not really a video of BC or splitting, but thought i’d share here since im riding the Furberg.

    http://youtu.be/Ek03yYpygLE

    Yes, totally agreed on the float, and it is not the size that does it. I have ridden plenty of traditional boards from 170-179 cm, none of them floated the way the furberg 173 does. I think this is due to the tapered tip and tail shape, and the gentle rise on the tip. The tapered tip and tail keep the pressure low and distributed over some length at the contact points, and this stops the tip and tail from cutting/diving into the snow on the entrance and exit from turns. The gentle rise tip shape allows the entire surface area of the tip to provide lift as well, as opposed to the typical steeply turned up nose on most boards (Jones uses a similar tip rise to good effect as well).
    This is my go to pow board for sure, nothing compares. Too bad this year has sucked around here for POW… next year, Canada…

    #643067
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    74 Posts

    First let me say I am really digging all the knowledge of snowboard tech on this forum!!

    Need some thoughts as my diy stash is coming in the door:-)
    Got a good deal on diy splitkit, sparks, chomps and lt pins. So finally its my time to own a splitboard. But I am torn on splitting the Furberg or not? Here are my thoughts:
    The Furberg was bought for resort powder bowl riding. I ONLY visit resorts when there is powder. I am loving the float and stability of the furberg there.
    But when I start splitboarding, I imagine I will encounter different conditions during fall til spring as its not only for the ride down anymore. How do you feel the Furberg would do as an all year condition splitboard?

    I can get my hands on a cheap Ride slackcountry 168. Maybe it could be a more allround board compromise? http://www.powderboardreviews.com/boards/review-2010-ride-slackcountry/

    #643068
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    1487 Posts

    Bjørgvin: I do not know the answer to your question. I have a 173 DIY split furberg, but have only used it occasionally this season, due to the lack of snow. I am curious as well regarding how it would perform as an all conditions board. Now that we have spring conditions here, I have been riding my Venture Storm (166), it would be interesting to try the 167 furberg as an all conditions board as you suggest.
    The 173 works fine for me in all terrain (not just big turns open bowl stuff) including tight trees, steep techy sections, as long as there is good snow, but I am not so sure it would be maneuverable enough in harder snow conitions.

    #643069
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    74 Posts

    Yeah the board and shape is kinda unique and exeriences are still being made. Thats why I`m leaning towards not splitting the 173 to be used as my only splitboard. Nice to take it with me when I`m 100% sure its good snow. I have the opportunity to visit resorts at weekdays when its not crowded. So there is untouched sidecountry lines to be made all day, all week when there`s been a dump. Thats were the 173 is optimal for me.

    When splitting I would go when the weather is nice, not just when the snow is knee deep dry powder. Thats why I`m considering a proven board and allround shape to be my only split.
    But then again. What about that knee deep split day I`m thinking “..man, wish i`d split that furberg…” 😀
    Maybe the answer is a F 167 split for a little less flexing between the mounting hardware and a bit shorter sidecut? :scratch: 😆
    Thanx for your input!

    #643072
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    45 Posts

    First off, as mine is not split, so i have not idea how it tours. However, do to our disgustingly warm weather up here (worst wet avi cycle in 3 decades or something), i have had the chance to ride it in ‘spring’ conditions. Still, this would be my board of choice in any conditions that wasn’t groomers or the park/bc booter. Outside of that, i think it does everything better than any other boards ive ridden.

    @barrows wrote:

    but I am not so sure it would be maneuverable enough in harder snow conitions.

    .

    I recently rode an coulior, which is 2000 ft of steep deliciousness with a pitch starting out at in the low 50s and never droppping below the low 40’s, the steepest i have ridden the Furberg on. (here is a link to the vid http://youtu.be/xOIpLsj_y4E) We rode it in the morning, it was as rock-hard, packed down as it could have been without being ‘ice’ for the top 1000 ft, then softened a bit lower. The grip from the board was amazing up top, and never felt too grippy when it softened down low. I never felt like I had a difficult time maneuvering the board, even in steep and hard conditions. Later that day I rode it down another 40+ shoot in in the sun, and they were super slush, almost wet avi scary. Again, the board rode fine, i never felt that the board hurt my riding. I have had 3 more days of riding the board in shit spring conditions, certainly not the most fun riding, but the board never felt like it was the issue. I have about 8 days in-bounds on this board in everything from waist deep blower pow, to icy and everything in between and it would be my choice to ride in everything. Don’t let the less-than-ideal snow conditions scare you away from it.

    #643073
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    74 Posts

    Nice video! Seems like you are enjoying the board 😀
    I actually enjoy the groomers when I`m trailing for the powder bowls.
    Seems like I`m really only fishing for excuses to buy another Furberg :headbang:
    Now I just need to overthink 167 vs 173 for an allround splitboard. 🙄

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