Forums Splitboards Furberg Snowboards Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 324 total) 1 2 … 17 → Author Posts October 4, 2011 at 9:29 am #575279 Eirikverlo@gmail.com 42 Posts This year a new snowboard brand will appear, called Furberg Snowboards. Its a swedish brand made by one of swedens best freeriders Daniel Furberg. The boards looks really sweet, with early taper in the tip and tail, and a huge sidecut of 16-20 meter depending on the size. The first boards will come in 162, 167 and 173cm, and there will only be a freeride model at first. Daniel Furberg said to me that they will try to make splitboards during the winter, so well see about that later :thumpsup: Check it out and like it at facebook: http://www.facebook.com/furbergsnowboards October 8, 2011 at 7:03 pm #642933 Taylor 791 Posts Awesome – finally someone makes large radius side-cut production decks. I really like the look of this shape and I’m eager to see specs. Looks very versatile and capable in a range of back country conditions. This is the kind of innovation I’ve been wanting to see in production decks for a long time – a welcome addition to the market. @sun_rocket October 9, 2011 at 10:49 pm #642934 Snurfer 1448 Posts Very well conceived. I’d like to see more of this thought given to board design and wish them much success! :headbang: Shark Snowsurf Chuna Voile V-Tail 170 BC Voile One Ninety Five Spark R&D Arc October 9, 2011 at 11:05 pm #642935 Taylor 791 Posts Their website is up: http://www.furbergsnowboards.com/freeride_173.html The specs: Length: 173 cm Flex Index (1-10): 6 Effective Edge: 99/134 cm (taper) Width: 279-270-290 mm Turning Radius: 20 meter Stance Width: 54-66 cm Setback: 40 mm Recommended Rider Weight: 75-105 kg Their design rationale (this is so refreshing): Freeride 173 You might think it is a utopia to build snowboards with great floatation, that are easy to handle and stable at high speed. We had to build many prototypes before we succeeded with this. Turning Radius As you might have noticed, the Furberg Snowboards clearly have a much longer turning radius than all other snowboards on the market. Now you are probably wondering what the advantage with this is? Well, short turning radius makes a board nervous and unstable at speed. Also it has a tendency to cut through the snow when you least expect it. In soft snow the turning radius is used in a very small degree to turn the board. Many freeride skis have a turning radius of 25-30 meter, while slalom skis which are developed to be with short turns on hard snow have a turning radius around 12-14 meter. Slalom snowboards have a turning radius around 10-12 meter, but this is where the logic ends. Most freeride snowboards on the market have turning radius as short as 7-9 meter. Furberg Snowboards have turning radius between 16 and 20 meter and it has made the boards much easier to ride, with a calmer and more stable behaviour. The longer turning radius is also positive for the floatation of the boards, because we could make the boards wider under the feet without getting too much width in the nose and the tail. The long radius might feel a bit strange in the beginning when you are carving, but this is something you quickly get used to. Rocker Profile Our snowboards have a slight rocker between the bindings, with the same radius as the turning radius. This rocker distributes the pressure over the mid section of the board and gives a better edge grip. The rocker also makes the board easier to turn and gives it better floatation in soft snow. If you are used to boards with normal camber, it might feel a bit strange to not get the same “pop” out of the turns. But this is something you will adapt to fast. Right outside the bindings there a short sections with flat camber before the rocker starts. These sections makes the board ride more stable on hard pack, with a longer effective edge compared to boards where the rocker starts from the bindings. The rocker that runs towards the nose and the tail obviously make the board float amazingly, but even more important is that it is so effortless to initiate the turns. Thanks to the height that the rocker creates, the nose can be made flatter with a lower angle towards the snow. Thereby the board runs over the snow more smoothly with less resistance. Taper While taper is a big trend on freeride skis, Furberg Snowboards is the first brand to introduce it on snowboards. Taper means that the turning radius ends a distance before the nose and the tail and pass on to a reversed sidecut towards the nose and the tail. On hard packed snow, boards with rocker looses the edge contact where the board bends upwards. There rocker boards are extra suitable to combine with taper. Taper makes the transition from turning radius to the nose and the tail very smooth and long. Therefore the board does not cut throuhg the snow in the same way as the pressure is distributed over a larger section of the edge. Taper also makes it easier to turn the board and ride with sliding turns in soft snow. Taper is so great that if we had to choose between rocker and taper, we would have chosen taper. @sun_rocket October 11, 2011 at 1:52 am #642936 barrows 1490 Posts WOW! This is the kind of board I have been waiting to see, very much like a snowboard version of DP Lotus skis. I really hope these guys can make a split version. I am very excited about this design! October 11, 2011 at 2:54 am #642937 Taylor 791 Posts Yeah, I emailed and asked if they’d press me a longer one (190) that would fit me; no dice. @sun_rocket October 11, 2011 at 7:11 am #642938 Nesse 30 Posts I just ordered the 173 and i’m really excited! Can’t wait to try it! I’d probably get the spit aswell if they decide to make it. will try to post a reveiw, but probably not untill january or late december. October 11, 2011 at 8:21 am #642939 Eirikverlo@gmail.com 42 Posts I talked to Daniel, he said he is going to send in orders for splitboards in 167 soon. He does not know how long time it will take to build them, but it means they will most likely come with splitboards this season! October 12, 2011 at 8:43 pm #642942 JimmyC 351 Posts I am also stoked to see these boards. I really look forward to seeing the ride reports!!! I hope to make a home for one of these boards in California. October 13, 2011 at 6:18 pm #642943 Toke 69 Posts Here is Furberg Snowboards homepage. Enjoy! :thumpsup: http://www.furbergsnowboards.com/ http://www.backcountryguidingnorway.com Furberg Snowboards Black Diamond October 15, 2011 at 6:58 am #642944 Taylor 791 Posts May they make long ones for tall people; I’d be so grateful. @sun_rocket October 18, 2011 at 5:16 am #642945 iriecoyote 291 Posts Mainlining above timberline the concept sounds good but what happens when you’re in the forest? October 18, 2011 at 7:34 am #642946 Taylor 791 Posts @stuka wrote: Mainlining above timberline the concept sounds good but what happens when you’re in the forest? That and steeps. Trees – good question. I think it’d be more tree-capable than the side-cut radius suggests given the early-taper shovel, tail and rocker. But I also think it’d ride very differently than the usual fare. I look forward to hearing peoples’ impressions of these decks. @sun_rocket October 18, 2011 at 2:29 pm #642947 Wasatch_Don 101 Posts @taylor wrote: That and steeps. Trees – good question. I think it’d be more tree-capable than the side-cut radius suggests given the early-taper shovel, tail and rocker. But I also think it’d ride very differently than the usual fare. I look forward to hearing peoples’ impressions of these decks. I was thinking about this and I don’t think it would bother me at all. I consider steep to be anything in the 45 degree or higher range and I rarely follow the sidecut turning radius on my current board anyway(current board is 10m radius). Usually, I’m jumping through my turns or flexing the board to my desired turn radius. The tip/tail rocker would make flipping those turns really fast and the long sidecut would give extra edge on the snow which is what I’m looking for in that situation. Regarding performance in the trees, I’m not sure it matters to me. As far as I’m concerned, trees are just the things you have to navigate in order to get back to the car. If the plan was to go lap some trees I wouldn’t take a board like this. If they made a split for big boys I’d buy one this season. October 18, 2011 at 2:39 pm #642948 Eirikverlo@gmail.com 42 Posts Me and toke here will get boards this week or the next, and we will test them as soon as the snow conditions allow us to! Will update you guys on how it performs, and i have to say i am extremely stoked on testing it! :thumpsup: October 18, 2011 at 3:55 pm #642941 barrows 1490 Posts As long as the snow has some depth, and the flex pattern and rocker profile are well sorted (as I would expect they are) these boards should have no problem turning in the trees. In soft snow, boards do not need to rely on sidecut to bend into the turn shape: the fact that the board is softer at the tip and tail naturally allows the board to bend into an arc when pressured. In addition, rocker at the tip, tail, and waist encourage easy turn initiation before pressure build up, by being pre-bent into the turn radius. In the days before the really deep sidecut boards (radii below 20 m or so) came out, everyone was able to rip trees with long radius sidecuts. Hardpacked tree runs at the resort will be a little harder to negotiate on a board like this until one adapts their riding style to take advantage of the ease of making skidding turns (enabled by the taper and long radius, which makes the edges much less likely to catch unexpectedly), but who really wants to ride hardpacked tree runs… October 18, 2011 at 4:23 pm #642940 b0ardski 249 Posts Nice to see some real evolution in shape/profile, anxious to read the reviews. This is a refreshing approach; full rocker + 9-10m sidecut on a 15x – 16x so called stiff all mt board feels like a skateboard w/ loose trucks under my feet(200# aggressive hardbooter). :thumpsup: :bananas: :drool: :thatrocks: :rock: :headbang: :bow: :clap: October 19, 2011 at 9:36 am #642949 Taylor 791 Posts Yeah – my money is on this being the most versatile back-country deck on the market. Except I’m keeping my money until they grow it out for big guys and split it too. 173 won’t cut it. But, nonetheless, bravo for pushing the evolution of board design. This board will make other manufacturers respond, and that’s a good thing — long overdue in my opinion. @sun_rocket October 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm #642950 yogisnow 42 Posts 173 on the way to Oz. Will sacrifice it and split it for 3 weeks in Japan.. Lets hope its stiff enough hey!! Could not talk Daniel into giving me a split this season. October 30, 2011 at 1:41 pm #642951 Snowman1 63 Posts Caution, 173 length and a 20m scr = misery in the trees. This long length and big sidecut are going to be a handful when the going gets tight. Great for wide open snowfields but difficult to manage when the trees are try to reach out and end your fun. I just came off of a Prior 173 4wd split with a 14m scr, lots of length and weight to deal with, definitely a handful when the going got tight and if snow conditions were marginal, it let me know. Keep in mind that this board was very old school with singular sidecut, minimal or no taper, minimal setback and pretty stiff for a split but, this season I am going with something a bit shorter (167), much much lighter (custom carbon layup), super variable sidecut (7 to 15m scr), more taper and rocker! I helped develop this shape in hopes to cover the broadest range of snow and slope conditions imaginable. It’s a Donek! If you can imagine it, Donek can build it! 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