Forums Splitboards Furberg. How to compare width (waist) to that of normal boards? and new models?
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  • #805968
    Mr_Orange
    76 Posts

    Should I get a freeride 164 or 168? Does anyone have waist width measurements for roughly where the bindings are mounted? (not the center waist width)

    Asking because, the furbergs have a wide waist (270) width but also a large 18m sidecut radius so it’s hard to tell what the actual width is like under the bindings.

    My ideal feel for board width is a 255 waist on 8m sidecut radius. +15/0, 22.5″ Stance. i have size 8.5 Sideral hard boots. Phantom bindings.

    One of the things I’m picky about is board width. I tried a 265 waist board 2 years ago really didn’t like it. The extra few millimeters feels like the board has more leverage to toss you around in uneven steep terrain. 255 feels perfect.

    Also, anyone know what changes there might be to next season’s furberg freerides? Based on the reviews i’ve read, im sold on this past season’s model but i’d be interested to hear what the camber/flex situation is on the upcoming ones.

    #805974
    Mr_Orange
    76 Posts

    Just measured my current board, its 271mm width under midpoint of the the rear binding.

    #805977
    permnation
    303 Posts

    279mm rear foot on 168.

    #805978
    Mr_Orange
    76 Posts

    Thanks!

    Would’ve liked to get the longer effective edge of a 168 but can’t compromise on the waist width.

    #806409
    Mr_Orange
    76 Posts

    By the way, i noticed there were no effective edge measurements posted on the Furberg site.

    Im guessing that’s because the reverse sidecut makes it more vague as to where the effective edge begins/ends…?

    Am i wrong about this?

    #806444
    permnation
    303 Posts

    I can take a measurement for you later this week on the 168. I think furberg’s EE was discussed in some past threads.

    #806453
    Mr_Orange
    76 Posts

    There’s more discussion about Furberg’s effective edge here: http://splitboard.com/talk/topic/reverse-sidecuttaper/

    It seems like the furberg effective edge is supposed to be shorter than a typical board of the same width.

    I actually ended up ordering the 160 freeride. After measuring more accurately, my current board (capita thunderstick157) has a rear foot binding area width of 164mm. Permnation, you had another post saying that the 160 freeride has a rear foot width of 169mm.

    So a 160 freeride should feel like mide-wide (260mm waist) relative to a “normal” board (255mm waist, 8m sidecut). I’m sure factors like the 18m sidecut, taper, and reverse sidecut will also contribute to the feeling width-wise.

    Permnation, how did you like the 160? I read somewhere that furbergs are good for really steep slopes which is part of the reason i got it. Do you ride both the 160 and 168? how do they compare?

    #806525
    permnation
    303 Posts

    I only ride the 1st generation furbergs when lift-accessed, and the 167 is my favorite. For splits, I have the 2nd generation 160 and a DIY 168. Being on the large side (5’11” 190lbs, 11 boot) for the 160, I still prefer it over the DIY 168. I like the narrower waist and the overall nimbleness. The 160 most resembles the feel of my 1st gen. 167 solids.

    #806569
    Mr_Orange
    76 Posts

    What angle do you run on your back foot? that’s a narrow board width relative to your boot size. Are you soft or hard boots?

    Do you have boot out issues with deep carves or steeps?

    I was looking into this board called the donek nomad and considered downsizing my board width by 1 cm. 245mm waist (usual is 255).

    Was worried about boot out though. I usually do 3 or 0 degrees in the back (26.5 mondo hardboot).

    I’ve played around shifting the binding bias closer to the toe and heel edges before and always liked the general improved response. But not sure how much i can get away with in steep areas.

    #806613
    permnation
    303 Posts

    I run 18 and -6 and have not had any boot-out issues on the 160. Most of my splitting is in soft snow and in mellow, fun treed terrain.

    #806921
    Mr_Orange
    76 Posts

    I’m looking for a nimble tree riding board. Might have to try something narrower on that.

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